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nanabugg

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43. Taxes are NOT the big problem to businesses as the GOP wants you to believe. Greed is.
Fri Sep 21, 2012, 06:48 PM
Sep 2012

Ever heard of the "company store."

The wealthy elite (either inherited, embezzled, scammed, or earned from investment) own the company store. They own the buildings and infrastructure that businesses use (and the rent they charge is TOO DAMN HIGH, the fees for garage and building/mall services are TOO DAMN HIGH. Most of these folks are dual or non- citizen owners and stock holders who use our current tax system, with its huge business subsidies and tax write-offs to actually pay little or not taxes. They cry about our high tax rates on businesses compared to other countries but numerous studies have shown that the ACTUAL taxes paid by businesses in the US are comparable to the taxes paid in other countries. The BIGGEST difference is actually wages and benefits paid to US workers. So these uber wealthy business owners and corporate elites, rather than pay decent wages with decent benefits choose to take their profits and companies outside the US where they can pay slave wages and practically no benefits to poor workers. When these workers begin to ask for better wages and benefits they do what they did in Spain and France...close down and go elsewhere. Leaving migrant workers in their countries in squalor, angry, protesting, and poor. Because the large corporations and big businesses are able to do this, the really small businesses are left paying the real tax margins that make it difficult for them to thrive without significant help from the government.) Well I am getting disorganized in writing this because it makes me angry...but you get my drift. It is much too complicated point out every little detail of what I know about how businesses operate in this country. But there are TWO things that this country needs quickly from the Dems if they are ever able to be in control of things again:

A reformed tax system that eliminates the huge tax breaks that big businesses get even though they move their businesses off shore to avoid paying the little taxes that are left.

A standard, national election system with standard voter registrations and rules that apply in all 50 of the states. The states can do what the hell they want to do for their own state and local elections but the election of the President, Vice President and Congress should have a standard election process.

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Lost Interest In Libya, Ma'am? The Magistrate Sep 2012 #1
I'm interested in everything...but mostly the economy. dkf Sep 2012 #4
LOL!!!!! HangOnKids Sep 2012 #12
The poster spends all her time finding fault with liberals and their policies. I have NEVER kestrel91316 Sep 2012 #14
This message was self-deleted by its author HangOnKids Sep 2012 #22
There are a few longtimers who've started to show their slip. ProudToBeBlueInRhody Sep 2012 #58
You Are Awesome, Sir. joshcryer Sep 2012 #70
The Blaze running out of links for you? nt RandiFan1290 Sep 2012 #2
Nothing to say on my post? dkf Sep 2012 #7
Of Course You Know What 'the Blaze' Is, Ma'am: Glen Beck's Site, That You Link To The Magistrate Sep 2012 #19
Nice! pinboy3niner Sep 2012 #21
Ouch...definitive debunking of right wing troll alcibiades_mystery Sep 2012 #32
I just went there because it was suggested. You don't notice the time? dkf Sep 2012 #47
You Linked To Glen Beck''s Site, Ma'am The Magistrate Sep 2012 #52
Yeah I had no idea...it doesn't even have his name. dkf Sep 2012 #59
You Are So Cute, Ma'am: It's Precious, It Really is The Magistrate Sep 2012 #61
Well it's the truth. dkf Sep 2012 #63
Thank you for your concern. aquart Sep 2012 #3
i agree completely. it's hard enough to scrape by on $35 million a year. unblock Sep 2012 #5
Demand and stability. You're welcome. nt LaydeeBug Sep 2012 #6
I missed something - what exactly stops the bisiness from making money? ksoze Sep 2012 #8
Cap on profit or income. dkf Sep 2012 #49
first of all that's a red herring ibegurpard Sep 2012 #51
No that comes from posters at this site. dkf Sep 2012 #54
yeah i said a credible source and a legitimate proposal ibegurpard Sep 2012 #60
Sorry, I neglected to answer this part downthread so let me address it here riderinthestorm Sep 2012 #56
Why are we letting rich fucks profit off OUR labor? n/t leftstreet Sep 2012 #9
Buisnesses expand and hire more when MORE CUSTOMERS start coming through the door. bullwinkle428 Sep 2012 #10
But they only do this because more customers means more profit. hughee99 Sep 2012 #17
Then someone else will pick up the extra demand. peabody Sep 2012 #24
If Apple decides to stop making iphones for the year hughee99 Sep 2012 #29
Yes, I see what you're saying peabody Sep 2012 #73
This may work for restaurants and contractors, and things like that... hughee99 Sep 2012 #74
Well sort of 4th law of robotics Sep 2012 #34
That would depend on some other factors. riderinthestorm Sep 2012 #35
I think it's pretty obvious 4th law of robotics Sep 2012 #36
That's not really what the OP said though riderinthestorm Sep 2012 #37
Totally agree with you there 4th law of robotics Sep 2012 #40
I don't think Riderinthestorm was talking about altruism markpkessinger Sep 2012 #39
Exactly! SickOfTheOnePct Sep 2012 #48
Please show how CEO's have used paying zero taxes to do anything but pay themselves stupendous Ikonoklast Sep 2012 #11
How do you expect us small business owners to make more money to hire more people if kestrel91316 Sep 2012 #13
+1,000,000,000. anneboleyn Sep 2012 #76
. Guy Whitey Corngood Sep 2012 #15
Indeed! HangOnKids Sep 2012 #18
"Every so often I see a post" - Somebody order some Straw Men? FSogol Sep 2012 #16
Pride? Survival? Better customer service? Barack_America Sep 2012 #20
Funny, I always thought that if the objective of a company was to 'grow' and sinkingfeeling Sep 2012 #23
I Used To Own A Small Business DemocratSinceBirth Sep 2012 #26
Not so jmowreader Sep 2012 #75
Why would a business owner expand and hire if he/she can't make more money? DemocratSinceBirth Sep 2012 #25
As a small business owner, I will only employ more employees when I have more customers riderinthestorm Sep 2012 #27
Now you're trying to interject reality into the RW fantasy so many like this cling to. Egalitarian Thug Sep 2012 #33
Alright, I'll Bite and Answer Xyzse Sep 2012 #28
well said, thanks for the effort rsweets Sep 2012 #30
Great response -- just a brief comment regarding infrastructure... markpkessinger Sep 2012 #41
Tax cuts don't automatically make businesses grow. porphyrian Sep 2012 #31
meh. JoePhilly Sep 2012 #38
I hope one day you share the secret. Guy Whitey Corngood Sep 2012 #42
This message was self-deleted by its author devilgrrl Sep 2012 #44
But it's still here, has been here for quite some time. smokey nj Sep 2012 #55
I have no idea why Aerows Sep 2012 #57
The fact that it hasn't been canned after years of spewing this right wing garbage is indeed a Guy Whitey Corngood Sep 2012 #66
This message was self-deleted by its author devilgrrl Sep 2012 #69
You're so insensitve. Can't you see she's sooooo concerned. nt Guy Whitey Corngood Sep 2012 #71
It Does Bring To Mind Some Of the Greats, Sir; OMC, 7th Son, And Their Like The Magistrate Sep 2012 #62
You and I go way back and still remember vividly all those weasels you mentioned. nt Guy Whitey Corngood Sep 2012 #67
Taxes are NOT the big problem to businesses as the GOP wants you to believe. Greed is. nanabugg Sep 2012 #43
why would a business owner expand and hire if he/she doesn't have customers? ibegurpard Sep 2012 #45
It's interesting how far a person who prides themselves on logic can go off the rails. lumberjack_jeff Sep 2012 #46
They wouldn't Aerows Sep 2012 #50
Because we Nationalize it, and force the expansion. PowerToThePeople Sep 2012 #53
To supply the market with their product? Not ever business owner wants 20 boats to ski behind uponit7771 Sep 2012 #64
That's why we need worker-owned businesses. bemildred Sep 2012 #65
Taxes don't cause this problem quaker bill Sep 2012 #68
Hmmm, I wonder if THIS one has a blog. LeftyMom Sep 2012 #72
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