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rustysgurl

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41. I too lived in the Ozarks ...
Sat Aug 22, 2020, 03:09 PM
Aug 2020

... not far from the Queen City. My parents retired there when I was in high school. It was hell. The entire county was red... BLOOD red. Most of the Republican candidates ran unopposed in the general elections. Democrats didn't even bother to organize, and I don't remember one Democratic candidate EVER winning an elected office in that county.

People in these areas work hard for not much. They look at big city folks as soft, weak and entitled. They will disagree with them just to disagree. They love their guns, their churches and their independence. Some of them live on food stamps and other assistance, but they are looked down on by most of the folks around there. Jobs are few; decent paying jobs even fewer. Most farm, and then work a job to pay the bills. Some commute 40-75 miles one way to Springfield or Branson to work.

Life there is not easy. These people, while hard working, are resentful. They are resentful of big city folks who have more. They are resentful of liberals who want to give "handouts" to people who don't work as hard as they do. They especially don't want to help immigrants or anyone who doesn't look like them. True story. One of the factories in our small town brought in an engineer and his family from St Louis. They were black. They didn't last 6 months. They were shunned. Folks in the grocery stores wouldn't check them out. Restaurants wouldn't wait on them. People looked right through them, unless of course you are talking about the police, who (I kid you not) would stop the man at least once a week in town for one cockamamie vehicle violation or another. He packed up his family and went back to St Louis. I felt so sorry for them. But when I expressed my disgust at the unfairness, friends just shrugged and said, "that's the way we are."

Nothing, absolutely nothing, will convince these people that anyone running on the Democratic ticket is worthy of their vote. They revile Democrats, and I am sure the 8 years of the Obama presidency was absolute hell for them. Trump is their boy. He makes it ok for them to say what they've always thought, and he puts liberals in their places (or so they think). He could shoot their grandmothers and they would find a way to rationalize it. Him letting a bunch of black and brown people die in a pandemic doesn't affect them. Nothing he does affects them directly (or hasn't so far), so they don't care. They live in a very tiny sphere, and unless something affects them directly, they are content to let him do whatever he wants, as long as it's against Democrats. As the poster said ... they HATE Democrats and all they stand for. So anyone with an "R" next to their name is fine with them. He/She could be the world's worst, but they'd elect them anyway.

Going into these areas and trying to convince the citizens that they are voting against their own interests is akin to John Chau getting himself rowed over to the off-limits North Sentinel Island off the coast of India. He pretty much knew the outcome before he set foot on land, and anyone visiting Blood Red Missouri knows the same.

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So, they think we're weak. CaliforniaPeggy Aug 2020 #1
Bob Dylan...nt abakan Aug 2020 #24
Thank you! I couldn't remember. n/t CaliforniaPeggy Aug 2020 #29
I'm a life long fan abakan Aug 2020 #30
Aw......thank you so much, my dear abakan! CaliforniaPeggy Aug 2020 #31
Kindness is what they hate mountain grammy Aug 2020 #68
Hey you two!!!!! MyOwnPeace Aug 2020 #78
good let's see more of it. abakan Aug 2020 #85
I saw him live Star-Thrower Aug 2020 #95
No Nasruddin Aug 2020 #48
Great summation! parhelion Aug 2020 #102
And then start putting their clan really leaders in prison. Volaris Aug 2020 #50
weak means uncertain to them. authoritarianism is measured with the Uncertainty Avoidance Index certainot Aug 2020 #58
And what'll you do now Star-Thrower Aug 2020 #93
Thank you so much, my dear Star-Thrower! CaliforniaPeggy Aug 2020 #94
Thank you Star-Thrower Aug 2020 #96
What a fascinating article! So much I didn't know about him. CaliforniaPeggy Aug 2020 #100
There are clusters of Americans that are not worth reaching. Yavin4 Aug 2020 #2
There are a lot of great universities in southern states too. yardwork Aug 2020 #13
Some yes, but they're not globally renowned like those in Mass, CA, NY, and Ill Yavin4 Aug 2020 #15
You are misinformed. yardwork Aug 2020 #20
There's blue bubbles around those universities AdamGG Aug 2020 #25
They have more in common with highly educated areas in other states DBoon Aug 2020 #74
In the larger, urban cities, yes. @the Ozarks it's mostly rural onetexan Aug 2020 #97
Next weekend we're about to go visit my inlaws who live @the foothills of the Ozarks onetexan Aug 2020 #92
Confused: SamKnause Aug 2020 #3
It's the opposite of looking up and down. Down up, up down, in out, here there. panader0 Aug 2020 #8
I'm sure it's just a typo dmr Aug 2020 #9
LOL - that's what I thought. Its a typo. They don't like being looked down UPON. n/t Peregrine Took Aug 2020 #53
Here's The Thing...We Actually Do Get It Me. Aug 2020 #4
Exactly. Really felt like"mansplaining" LakeArenal Aug 2020 #7
I think the target for the rant are people like those who write for the NY times editorial pages Blecht Aug 2020 #44
I still find it madly confounding as its antithetical to everything I was taught and beileve in. Peregrine Took Aug 2020 #59
I live an hour's drive away. Runningdawg Aug 2020 #5
Well said! smirkymonkey Aug 2020 #45
Fuck them! edhopper Aug 2020 #6
And that mindset comes from decades of listening to RW hate radio Liberal In Texas Aug 2020 #10
That's what is killing our democracy; hate radio, conspiracy tv.Fox, OANN, and Limbaugh. BComplex Aug 2020 #33
Bingo! The sooner Limpbiscuit is deepsixed by his cancer the better. One less RW foulmouth onetexan Aug 2020 #98
Exactly and totally. Hate radio VALIDATED them. calimary Aug 2020 #34
A lot of the shit they hear on the radio LuvNewcastle Aug 2020 #75
I too live in the Ozarks, I know what that person is talking about The Genealogist Aug 2020 #11
Toxic Americanism. yardwork Aug 2020 #12
No kidding. I was taking a tour of the website of the local paper where I grew up in the Bible Belt. Girard442 Aug 2020 #51
What they don't understand is the Trump victory was just symbolic for them Buckeyeblue Aug 2020 #14
Not agreeing Nasruddin Aug 2020 #56
This is what I get from the article Buckeyeblue Aug 2020 #83
They won't mind giving up their Social Security checks, food stamps, clean air & water, NOAA, FDIC, dmr Aug 2020 #16
Meaning Trump's base are not the "rugged individualists" McCamy Taylor Aug 2020 #17
I hope we are not going back to the endless shrill cries of, "You just don't understand the Trump Squinch Aug 2020 #18
well put stopdiggin Aug 2020 #23
Status. Thus is one if the best descriptions I've ever seen. Thank you! PirateRo Aug 2020 #19
Agree ismnotwasm Aug 2020 #21
pretty much gospel truth stopdiggin Aug 2020 #22
I don't agree. I think most Roc2020 Aug 2020 #26
More than a few destroyed their brains with booze and meth. MarcA Aug 2020 #27
They make America weak. In the world's eyes and in actuality. elias7 Aug 2020 #28
Yes TheFarseer Aug 2020 #32
Let them rot in their rural hell. roamer65 Aug 2020 #35
i tried to tell my friend this barbtries Aug 2020 #36
I think the point of the writer's narrative Collimator Aug 2020 #37
Truth will out Mariana Aug 2020 #86
In other words 'They' are just ANIMALS. Where is the Gom Jabbar? Tommymac Aug 2020 #38
Thank you for posting this. PoindexterOglethorpe Aug 2020 #39
Unfortunately, this thread has been pretty enlightening. I wish there was no market for BComplex Aug 2020 #40
I too lived in the Ozarks ... rustysgurl Aug 2020 #41
Biden wants to peel off some of these vile knuckleheads to vote for him...is it possible? Peregrine Took Aug 2020 #62
Growing up in Kentucky Normanart Aug 2020 #64
What about pockets of trump humpers in otherwise liberal places? matt819 Aug 2020 #42
"Is their goal only to fuck liberals?" Mariana Aug 2020 #87
They will always be here. They hate. That's what they do. Programmed cayugafalls Aug 2020 #43
What a load. They've just been brainwashed by decades of rural right wing AM hate radio to think catbyte Aug 2020 #46
No different than rigid male minds everywhere - black and white world bucolic_frolic Aug 2020 #47
Plenty of double-X's in the Trump mix, I'm afraid Nasruddin Aug 2020 #57
"playing chicken with nature", huh? No cure for that brand of stupid. DinahMoeHum Aug 2020 #49
Tens of millions of Americans have a huge wellspring of hatred deep in their souls. patphil Aug 2020 #52
We absolutely do get it!! Hip2bSquare Aug 2020 #54
They are dumber than doorknobs. Joinfortmill Aug 2020 #55
Status. It has always been about status for these people. smirkymonkey Aug 2020 #60
This post and especially the last two paragraphs are so insightful renate Aug 2020 #81
Yes, exactly. They resent us trying to lift others up because they feel it will only make them smirkymonkey Aug 2020 #88
That is a long FB post to say.. they must hate because they are weak due to their own insecurities. chowder66 Aug 2020 #61
I want to add that if this is about status, being looked down upon then maybe they should stop being chowder66 Aug 2020 #67
Yep, exactly. It all boils down to fear. GoCubsGo Aug 2020 #79
Agree but they do not have good support systems. Those systems are underhandedly chowder66 Aug 2020 #82
We totally got it from day and and equally give zero fucks for you Dukkha Aug 2020 #63
I appreciate the writer..... the_sly_pig Aug 2020 #65
I've been saying similar for a LONG time. Its not racism. It really is "I hate liberals" oldsoftie Aug 2020 #66
Why we don't concentrate on what THEY and the middle Laura PourMeADrink Aug 2020 #69
They are just imitating the god they worship GulfCoast66 Aug 2020 #70
trump was on TEEVEE! he's famous! he's rich. media brainwashing since ronny raygun. then fux gnewz. pansypoo53219 Aug 2020 #71
For anyone who wants the text of that message, not a screen shot... Silent3 Aug 2020 #72
I have lived in this area for more than 50 years. gordianot Aug 2020 #73
Same thing here in NW PA Kaiserguy Aug 2020 #76
Who is Tom Nichols and why should we care. Like you have to live i the Ozarks to know Kashkakat v.2.0 Aug 2020 #77
I get it enough to know moondust Aug 2020 #80
Of course there is an element of this crowd in every country LiberalLovinLug Aug 2020 #84
To many communities in these areas DFW Aug 2020 #89
This is why turning out our base and other non-brainwashed people is paramount DSandra Aug 2020 #90
They have essentially been conditioned for a dictatorship DSandra Aug 2020 #91
This is the spot on truth. Every word Baltimike Aug 2020 #99
see that's the thing though Skittles Aug 2020 #101
Yup, biggest reason I wanted out of there. Lady Freedom Returns Aug 2020 #103
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