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George II

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73. For the most part, yes. Do you want to defund Chris Swanson?

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Mon Aug 24, 2020, 07:43 PM

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"What does an America with defunded police look like to you?" AOC's BRILLIANT quotable answer. [View all] LAS14 Aug 2020 OP

I would guess that most urban police officers LakeVermilion Aug 2020 #1

She is 100% correct. Pacifist Patriot Aug 2020 #2

Brilliant response! MyOwnPeace Aug 2020 #3

I don't see that she needs any help NJCher Aug 2020 #6

I'm referring to the time when she says things MyOwnPeace Aug 2020 #8

Most of the people who squawk about her timing or choice of words or whatever Mariana Aug 2020 #12

Right. What & when don't matter. They'd yell anyway 'cause she ain't white. rickyhall Aug 2020 #14

And she's female, and she's young. Mariana Aug 2020 #15

She is all those things, and IMVHO, one more, Throckmorton Aug 2020 #23

I would give most people here at DU the benefit of the doubt. robbob Aug 2020 #26

Most here on DU support AOC Trumpocalypse Aug 2020 #38

Not here - and that's just too much of a generalized "sweep" to take. MyOwnPeace Aug 2020 #16

So she was tasked with seconding the nomination for Sanders Cuthbert Allgood Aug 2020 #34

And the other points - they're "ridiculous" too? MyOwnPeace Aug 2020 #37

She does support the party Trumpocalypse Aug 2020 #39

So instead of saying she nominates Sanders, like they asked her, she should have said: Cuthbert Allgood Aug 2020 #40

I have a progressive friend who dodn't like AOC. soldierant Aug 2020 #65

All republican politics is just a hate factory mdbl Aug 2020 #88

do you have a clue how condescending this is? Voltaire2 Aug 2020 #94

That's actually not correct. I've lived in all kinds of neighborhoods and never saw.... George II Aug 2020 #4

White neighborhoods? Dem4Life1102 Aug 2020 #31

In some neighborhoods perhaps, as a blanket statement it's incorrect. George II Aug 2020 #32

It's not a blanket statement Dem4Life1102 Aug 2020 #33

You've lived in "all kinds of neighborhood" Cuthbert Allgood Aug 2020 #35

As I said elsewhere here earlier, in some neighborhoods perhaps.... George II Aug 2020 #42

That's contradictory response at best, you can't have it both ways either the cops treated folk uponit7771 Aug 2020 #52

They do in some, they don't in others. That's exactly my point. It's not valid to generalize this. George II Aug 2020 #54

BULL FUCKIN SHIT !!! The cops ... DO ... treat black people different no matter what neighborhood uponit7771 Aug 2020 #55

But that has nothing to do with the premise and quote in the OP, which is attempting to.... George II Aug 2020 #61

My wifes friend lived in Kenosha it's like Topeka and not a suburb of Chi vs it's own city that's uponit7771 Aug 2020 #63

Kenosha is considered a suburb of both Chicago and Milwaukee: George II Aug 2020 #66

As I said it was sprawled on by Chi workers but its 65 miles away from Chi proper, and only ... uponit7771 Aug 2020 #71

Baloney. Kenosha is a suburb of neither. I grew up one town south and we weren't a suburb either. LAS14 Aug 2020 #79

the poster is never wrong Voltaire2 Aug 2020 #97

..... George II Aug 2020 #114

Lol. Hassin Bin Sober Aug 2020 #111

Lol. George II Aug 2020 #115

I'm missing where in that quote she makes a blanket statement Lordquinton Aug 2020 #116

I guess it's all in the way one chooses to read it. As for me a lot has happened since Monday. George II Aug 2020 #117

So you choose to read into it Lordquinton Aug 2020 #120

Perhaps that's what you're doing? Seems curious that in a thread that's been dormant.... George II Aug 2020 #121

She wasn't saying the "police" are different. She was sying the "system" is different. LAS14 Aug 2020 #119

You are correct. She just wants a talking point. oldsoftie Aug 2020 #45

Based on reality you and the poster are wrong, we can see there's a difference in communities uponit7771 Aug 2020 #51

The intentionally obtuse responses you are getting are less about the topic at hand... Lucky Luciano Aug 2020 #83

She's right, you're wrong and the skin color does make a difference based on reality not what uponit7771 Aug 2020 #49

It's right in some neighborhoods, but not all. It's an oversimplification overlooking.... George II Aug 2020 #53

"But I didn't grow up in an upper middle class town that is about 95% white." melman Aug 2020 #56

Yorktown Heights, a suburb of NYC, is 95% white, 1% Black, 3% Asian, 2% Hispanic. George II Aug 2020 #76

I'm quite literally from Yorktown Heights - South Deerfield Avenue! Lucky Luciano Aug 2020 #85

So what's your point? melman Aug 2020 #105

No one said that at all. I made my point, just read through the thread. George II Aug 2020 #107

You said, "But I didn't grow up in an upper middle class town that is about 95% white." melman Aug 2020 #109

I made my point, just read through the thread. George II Aug 2020 #110

This message was self-deleted by its author melman Aug 2020 #113

It's a deflection to minimize the overall treatment of blacks to the exception vs obvious rule ... uponit7771 Aug 2020 #57

But the quotes in the the OP contain absolutely no reference to skin color or race, they refer to... George II Aug 2020 #62

"But the quotes in the the OP contain absolutely no reference to skin color or race" melman Aug 2020 #67

My initial point was that she's generalizing the makeup of "suburbs", which is false..... George II Aug 2020 #69

Do you still believe 99% of police are good... melman Aug 2020 #72

For the most part, yes. Do you want to defund Chris Swanson? George II Aug 2020 #73

Okay melman Aug 2020 #74

If his department is defunded he will be defunded. George II Aug 2020 #78

So where are all the good cops Trumpocalypse Aug 2020 #75

We don't see reports on good cops doing their jobs. Maybe we should see more of that. George II Aug 2020 #77

Nor do we ever see them stopping Trumpocalypse Aug 2020 #82

Maybe you could start a Blue Lives Matter group here! Voltaire2 Aug 2020 #99

Please elaborate, why? George II Aug 2020 #100

to keep us informed about all the great things cops are doing! Voltaire2 Aug 2020 #101

My point is, in case you missed it, is not all members of every group are bad because some members.. George II Aug 2020 #102

All the more reason why you should start your group. Voltaire2 Aug 2020 #103

The good news, as you put it, is out there. Some just choose to refuse that it exists. George II Aug 2020 #104

There have been protests all summer long... melman Aug 2020 #106

Ha! melman Aug 2020 #108

OMFG Voltaire2 Aug 2020 #95

You're welcome to add it to your library. George II Aug 2020 #98

Dallas Police Chief agreed Grins Aug 2020 #5

Yep. nt SunSeeker Aug 2020 #44

We need those services - on top of our current police force Amishman Aug 2020 #68

Right on, AOC. nt iluvtennis Aug 2020 #7

Brilliant AOC! LiberalLovinLug Aug 2020 #9

KNR Lucinda Aug 2020 #10

I believe we have to tackle for profit entities first. ananda Aug 2020 #11

The fewer incidents of bad policing, safeinOhio Aug 2020 #13

She is AWESOME budkin Aug 2020 #17

I do not like the phrase "de-fund the police". LisaM Aug 2020 #18

Neighborhood investment Efilroft Sul Aug 2020 #20

As I said, I think we all basically agree. LisaM Aug 2020 #21

It might, without a proper defense. Efilroft Sul Aug 2020 #25

I frankly think that term is being pushed by the RW. Dave Starsky Aug 2020 #29

In my opinion what plays into conservatives' hands melman Aug 2020 #43

Well, the goal would be to take funds from the police Cuthbert Allgood Aug 2020 #36

Bad framing. Great point mjvpi Aug 2020 #46

To many it has the wrong connotation. It's the wrong word to use, and now it's being used.... George II Aug 2020 #50

Agreed. Words mean things. nt eilen Aug 2020 #92

What a great response. That one can be taken to the bank. yonder Aug 2020 #19

K&R!!!!! Cattledog Aug 2020 #22

So true Johnny2X2X Aug 2020 #24

She is eloquent, & gives voice to ideas that allow others to understand... Hekate Aug 2020 #27

There she goes being a nasty woman again. lunatica Aug 2020 #28

HA! oldsoftie Aug 2020 #60

I think it's a misleading slogan Mossfern Aug 2020 #30

She's not saying it's the police. She's saying it's the allocation of resources. Resources... LAS14 Aug 2020 #80

I agree, therfore Mossfern Aug 2020 #84

I agree. But the phrase isn't hers. She was answering a question. nt LAS14 Aug 2020 #86

True Mossfern Aug 2020 #87

Well that's a homerun ball on a hung pitch lol! Volaris Aug 2020 #41

She's ignoring the fact that "the suburbs" have become increasingly mixed over the past 30 yrs. oldsoftie Aug 2020 #47

... and blacks get treated different there too. WTF !? I'm one of them, they don't give a fuck if .. uponit7771 Aug 2020 #58

the cops would never do something like shoot somebody in the back in a car full of kids. Voltaire2 Aug 2020 #96

She is comparing downtown/East LA and the Orange County suburbs perfectly, I must say. SunSeeker Aug 2020 #48

But she's painting ALL suburbs with the same brush, which is entirely incorrect. For example.... George II Aug 2020 #89

True. There are certainly suburbs of LA that get treated differently than Orange County. SunSeeker Aug 2020 #91

She is Amazing. she is absolutely right. progressive nobody Aug 2020 #59

Answer is not to defund them rather to reform them and a very aggressive reform at that. cstanleytech Aug 2020 #64

AOC 2028! zentrum Aug 2020 #70

She is brilliant and determined to make this stinking world much better. BeckyDem Aug 2020 #81

Excellent. Reminds me of how people have an entierly different response to people rioting Dark n Stormy Knight Aug 2020 #90

I think that is a bit disingenuous eilen Aug 2020 #93

Her point is that the violence and crime would be less in the city if the response.. LAS14 Aug 2020 #112

Brilliant! K/R nt Alex4Martinez Aug 2020 #118

She is wrong about suburbs supporting housing. Klaralven Aug 2020 #122