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9. "You Khan’t Ignore How Students Learn"
Sun Jan 8, 2012, 06:24 PM
Jan 2012
http://fnoschese.wordpress.com/tag/khan-academy/

This physics teacher has several blog entries of his criticisms of Khan video system:

"A video lecture is not interactive engagement.

“…maybe you explain once and you reemphasize that this goes against misconception A, B, C, or D.”

Khan (along with most of the general public, in my opinion) has this naive notion that teaching is really just explaining. And that the way to be a better teacher is to improve your explanations. Not so! Teaching is really about creating experiences that allow students to construct meaning.

“And I think frankly, the best way to do it is you put stuff out there and you see how people react to it…”

This is flawed. People’s reactions are not indicators of effectiveness. Pre/post testing is needed to indicate effectiveness. Ah, but perhaps there is a relationship between people’s reaction and effectiveness? The research indicates otherwise. In the very research study that Khan says is valid (and then dismisses), student actually did better after watching the videos they described as confusing, and made no gains after watching the videos they described as easy to understand. Additional research indicates that when an instructor switches over to IE methods, course evaluations from students tend to be more negative than the previous year, despite gains from students going up. (Don’t worry, a few years after the switch to IE, the evaluations go back to pre-IE levels.)

“You see, the comments they put, they’ll ask questions based on… Every time I put a YouTube video up, I look at the comments — at least the first 20, 30, 40 comments that go up — and I can normally see a theme: that look, a lot of people kind of got the wrong idea here. Or maybe some people did, and then I’ll usually make another video saying “Hey, look after the last video, I read some the comments and a lot of y’all are saying this is not what we’re talking about it’s completely different.” So that means I am attacking the misconceptions.”

Again, it’s not about crafting better explanations. It’s about helping students wrestle with their conceptions and guiding them."

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Khan Academy isn't as great as it seems proud2BlibKansan Jan 2012 #1
Funny how 4 different school districts tried it and liked it txlibdem Jan 2012 #2
So did mine proud2BlibKansan Jan 2012 #3
Khan Academy: Great Idea- With One Glaring Hole EFerrari Jan 2012 #5
You're using it wrong and you don't understand it & the benefits it gives to teachers txlibdem Jan 2012 #12
Yeah, yeah. I've heard this song before. Nothing can ever change in your world or you'll fight it txlibdem Jan 2012 #11
OK, I'll tell our assistant superintendent for curriculum and instruction proud2BlibKansan Jan 2012 #30
There really is no such thing as a free lunch. EFerrari Jan 2012 #4
52% is barely above an even split lol nt msongs Jan 2012 #6
Well, not really. EFerrari Jan 2012 #7
You are painting an entire community as racists, a community of mostly Democrats by the way txlibdem Jan 2012 #10
LOL EFerrari Jan 2012 #15
Median income for blacks is HIGHER than whites there txlibdem Jan 2012 #16
What does that tell you, exactly? EFerrari Jan 2012 #18
On further research, looks like the school district isn't being up front re demographics on its site EFerrari Jan 2012 #17
And this relates to self-paced learning how, exactly??? txlibdem Jan 2012 #19
It relates to the Khan Academy because you used Los Altos as some kind of model. EFerrari Jan 2012 #20
The Khan Academy helps ALL students, regardless of race txlibdem Jan 2012 #24
The Los Altos example doesn't show that, nope. EFerrari Jan 2012 #25
Los Altos is part of Silicon Valley, no? FrenchieCat Jan 2012 #32
Oh, and btw, txlibdem, it isn't racism to point out racism. EFerrari Jan 2012 #22
Yeah well, I grew up in Los Altos.. Upton Jan 2012 #26
The point I'm making is that you can't claim to be trying to help everyone EFerrari Jan 2012 #27
Asian=honorary white XemaSab Jan 2012 #21
Turns out, the Los Altos school district was lying about their demographics. EFerrari Jan 2012 #23
K'd & R'd DeathToTheOil Jan 2012 #8
Thank you txlibdem Jan 2012 #14
"You Khan’t Ignore How Students Learn" Starry Messenger Jan 2012 #9
One guy hates it but 4 separate districts vetted it and found it helps students learn better txlibdem Jan 2012 #13
19th Century teachers tend to despise 21st Century learning. Robb Jan 2012 #28
:-) Thanks txlibdem Jan 2012 #29
The Khan system is nothing more than an updated version of the levels system they used to teach math MadHound Jan 2012 #31
You mean worse than we have now? Students aren't being prepared for college now. txlibdem Jan 2012 #34
Because as I stated in my earlier post, MadHound Jan 2012 #36
Another empty excuse for the status quo txlibdem Jan 2012 #37
Interesting. K&R. great white snark Jan 2012 #33
I believe strongly that self-paced learning is the only viable way to improve our education system txlibdem Jan 2012 #35
The more I educate myself on this issue the more I agree with you. great white snark Jan 2012 #38
The number of students proficient and advanced math skills increased by 18% between 2010 & 2011 txlibdem Jan 2012 #39
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