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Stuart G

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47. Yes, I hope so too. Sometimes the horror of it all gets to me. It gets to all of us in different

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Thu Aug 27, 2020, 11:39 PM

Aug 2020

ways. So many and so many more. And this one really got to me..

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I have never been for the death penalty, but maybe now one exception:..... Kyle Rittenhouse [View all] Stuart G Aug 2020 OP

The death penalty is always wrong, all the time, no matter The Velveteen Ocelot Aug 2020 #1

agreed, except for 2 exceptions (the Nuremberg ones) crimes against humanity & waging aggressive war Celerity Aug 2020 #8

Death penalty is not on the table. LisaL Aug 2020 #2

Also, Wisconsin doesn't have the death penalty for anyone. The Velveteen Ocelot Aug 2020 #4

Feds do BGBD Aug 2020 #48

True, but what he did isn't covered by the federal statute The Velveteen Ocelot Aug 2020 #50

I'm counting on BGBD Aug 2020 #53

The law requires a defendant to be charged within a short time or they can't hold him, The Velveteen Ocelot Aug 2020 #54

there is BGBD Aug 2020 #55

I really don't think the feds will take the case The Velveteen Ocelot Aug 2020 #57

You are mistaken Kaleva Aug 2020 #59

It isn't that narrow BGBD Aug 2020 #73

If there was a conspiracy, why no charges against the fellow conspirators? Kaleva Aug 2020 #76

there were many of them BGBD Aug 2020 #101

The only basis for federal jurisdiction I can see is a possible violation of firearms laws, The Velveteen Ocelot Aug 2020 #60

By federal standards, the gun wasn't illegal. Kaleva Aug 2020 #75

I hadn't heard anything about the circumstances relating to how he got the gun. The Velveteen Ocelot Aug 2020 #91

I just read that the gun was borrowed from a friend who lives in WI. Kaleva Aug 2020 #94

Rittenhouse didn't commit a federal crime where the death penalty is punishment. Kaleva Aug 2020 #56

I had forgotten that this killer is a "minor." But he planned to kill and went to kill and used Stuart G Aug 2020 #7

WI doesn't have the death penalty, fortunately, so it isn't even a possibility The Velveteen Ocelot Aug 2020 #9

Everyone who's committed first degree murder Mariana Aug 2020 #62

Capital punishment is no way to save money Cirque du So-What Aug 2020 #3

I would pick a child killer or serial killer... AkFemDem Aug 2020 #5

exactly this. OhioBlue Aug 2020 #20

I made an exception for Timothy McVeigh--that's as far as I'll go. lastlib Aug 2020 #52

That little shit and his enablers should be put in a vat of hot oil tulipsandroses Aug 2020 #6

We don't torture people to death either. The Velveteen Ocelot Aug 2020 #10

Yes, maybe a...."vat of hot oil" for awhile, then lifetime in prison. Every once in a while..back Stuart G Aug 2020 #11

Funny how we liberals can also revert to barbarism when the other side pisses us off. The Velveteen Ocelot Aug 2020 #14

it is disgusting and pathetic Skittles Aug 2020 #31

I have no good will when it comes to white supremacists so we will agree to disagree tulipsandroses Aug 2020 #36

Mercy and grace aren't necessary. The Constitution is. The Velveteen Ocelot Aug 2020 #37

Trial. Then Vat of oil. Electric Chair. Lethal Injection. Don't care how tulipsandroses Aug 2020 #41

Well, since Wisconsin doesn't have the death penalty The Velveteen Ocelot Aug 2020 #42

Seriously? Are you a liberal or a wingnut? obamanut2012 Aug 2020 #71

So you are saying young men who join gangs... AkFemDem Aug 2020 #13

I am not talking about young men who join gangs, I am talking about this particular killer named Stuart G Aug 2020 #15

Okay first I was responding to another poster but... AkFemDem Aug 2020 #18

He is entitled to a fair prosecution in a court and before a jury The Velveteen Ocelot Aug 2020 #22

And we need understand a not guilty result under law is possible no matter how much we are repulsed Amishman Aug 2020 #72

That's also possible. I don't think a complete acquittal is likely, but The Velveteen Ocelot Aug 2020 #92

Funny how we can talk just like the folks we deplore. Let's not. The Velveteen Ocelot Aug 2020 #16

NO canetoad Aug 2020 #68

WTF! NO!!!!How China, Iran and Saudi Arabia of you! nt USALiberal Aug 2020 #12

Yeah, no. You don't support the dp for Jeffrey Dahmer but you do for this snot-nosed punk? meadowlander Aug 2020 #17

Maybe Jeffery Dahmer should get the death too.. maybe...(just thinking about it) Stuart G Aug 2020 #21

It's a little late for that; he died in prison some years ago. The Velveteen Ocelot Aug 2020 #24

Yes, he got the "unofficial" death penalty. roamer65 Aug 2020 #64

So you *are* in favor of the death penalty. The Velveteen Ocelot Aug 2020 #96

Maybe...? Stuart G Aug 2020 #97

There's no "maybe." Take a stand and defend it. The Velveteen Ocelot Aug 2020 #98

newsflash Skittles Aug 2020 #19

Never have been in the past...not once..but maybe ???maybe I am changing my mind... Stuart G Aug 2020 #23

Either you're for it or you aren't. You don't get to pick and choose. The Velveteen Ocelot Aug 2020 #26

THANK YOU Skittles Aug 2020 #29

This message was self-deleted by its author qwlauren35 Aug 2020 #25

I feel that way about Dylann Roof qwlauren35 Aug 2020 #27

who exactly would do this torture? Skittles Aug 2020 #32

Um.... qwlauren35 Aug 2020 #33

you would seriously be in favor of people volunteering to torture? Skittles Aug 2020 #46

I am against the death penalty... sarisataka Aug 2020 #28

Maybe, just maybe...in this case only...yes, torture and kill ..."that little fucker." Stuart G Aug 2020 #30

So let's dive deeper- why this case only sarisataka Aug 2020 #89

Some of the comments on this thread, advocating torture and death The Velveteen Ocelot Aug 2020 #34

Thank you. cwydro Aug 2020 #38

Thank you. ismnotwasm Aug 2020 #58

Thank you canetoad Aug 2020 #69

+1000! nt USALiberal Aug 2020 #80

THANK YOU!!!!!!!!!! dware Aug 2020 #83

The comments you're referencing completely take me back to bullwinkle428 Aug 2020 #88

It's disgusting. n/t demmiblue Aug 2020 #95

Wisconsin state prison general population. roamer65 Aug 2020 #35

I agree that is is tempting sometimes, and.. mvd Aug 2020 #39

Yes, it is ...."tempting"....I will be thinking about this one for a long time. This particular Stuart G Aug 2020 #44

I do hope he gets life in prison mvd Aug 2020 #45

Yes, I hope so too. Sometimes the horror of it all gets to me. It gets to all of us in different Stuart G Aug 2020 #47

I actually support the DP in some cases... but not here FBaggins Aug 2020 #40

He needs to be in jail for a long time, and his mother should be charged Ilsa Aug 2020 #43

I oppose the death penalty for one reason only BGBD Aug 2020 #49

Yes, I had those same ideas too. This time it is clear who did it. Stuart G Aug 2020 #51

Yes, a rubicon was crossed. roamer65 Aug 2020 #63

A dopey juvenile wildly manipulated by every adult in his life is not really a great case greenjar_01 Aug 2020 #61

Wow. So many people calling for torture and death penalty. EllieBC Aug 2020 #65

Even though he is guilty, let him suffer the consequences of his actions! akbacchus_BC Aug 2020 #66

Stuart, you are either for or against the death penalty canetoad Aug 2020 #67

Yes, murdering someone for murdering someone makes so much sense obamanut2012 Aug 2020 #70

I'm betting Trump pardons him. Just wait. Vinca Aug 2020 #74

He can't -- it is a state charge obamanut2012 Aug 2020 #77

Oops. You're right. Well, that's something to be grateful for. Vinca Aug 2020 #104

The Mango Menace doesn't have the power to pardon him, dware Aug 2020 #86

This is one of the most disgusting threads ever tenderfoot Aug 2020 #78

+1000! nt USALiberal Aug 2020 #79

It's worth it to keep him alive with life without parole DFW Aug 2020 #81

Maybe that is the answer..keep him alive without parole, and "he'll be a remorseful Stuart G Aug 2020 #82

Mine is just an opinion, as valid or worthless as anyone else's DFW Aug 2020 #85

Perhaps your opinion, as sound as it is, really changed my opinion on this. Stuart G Aug 2020 #90

If you start to pick and choose, then you're NOT anti-death penalty. bullwinkle428 Aug 2020 #84

The death penalty costs more than mercuryblues Aug 2020 #87

True. But the death penalty gives people their pound of flesh The Velveteen Ocelot Aug 2020 #93

I don't shed a tear over the likes of mercuryblues Aug 2020 #99

No. DemocratSinceBirth Aug 2020 #100

He is 17. milestogo Aug 2020 #102

Capital punishment of anybody is unacceptable, no matter what the crime. The Velveteen Ocelot Aug 2020 #103