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Mick Travis

(106 posts)
18. Some excellent thoughts.
Sun Aug 30, 2020, 02:17 PM
Aug 2020

Thanks to all who have responded. Many great responses!

It's just damned frustrating, because we should have this in the bag. I am not looking forward to the immediate future. I think the ugliness is going to get worse every day.

I think rural voters are really scared of people different than themselves, and it takes real guts to go against the grain. They want a return to the "Leave it to Beaver" days. The land of white heterosexual Christian males is the only acceptable one to them. I lost a progressive brother to cancer last year who drove me nuts because he voted for Jill Stein, and I have a living Trump supporter brother who recently moved to rural Colorado. (this brother was once a Jesse Jackson delegate and knocked on doors for him...what happened is Clinton declared new wilderness areas, and this brother was no longer able to access via 4-wheeling what he had in the past...instant Republican, who now looks at GWB as a "damned libtard&quot Based upon a recent visit, I think Trump will carry rural America by a lot more than 60/40...more like 85/15. It's racism and fear and "traditional values" if nobody looks too closely.

The young need to get over themselves per only voting for perfection. I am a progressive myself and I know I'll never get everything I want, so I/we deal with it, and vote out the orange monster. Register and vote. ASAP.

Go Joe/Kamala and all Democrat senate candidates ! We must turn around this (now) f'd up country before it's too late. There's still hope, but it's not going to be a smooth transition even if we win. If we lose, here comes 1938 Germany, I hate to say.

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Many rural people resent the United States and hate cities and universities bluedye33139 Aug 2020 #1
They think rural life and/or farming Freddie Aug 2020 #3
There's also a perception that their lives are emptier and poorer than people in the cities bluedye33139 Aug 2020 #7
True, though the Framers lived in a different time treestar Aug 2020 #22
But given the outsized power of low population states Freddie Aug 2020 #45
There are very few farmers left Johnny2X2X Aug 2020 #43
Exactly Freddie Aug 2020 #44
However, they are still a MINORITY of the overall US population. smirkymonkey Aug 2020 #28
racism. jcgoldie Aug 2020 #2
Voting world wide wally Aug 2020 #4
For over a century, if you wanted to make something of yourself, you moved to The Big City. Girard442 Aug 2020 #5
This is really at the crux of it. Resentment and bitterness. smirkymonkey Aug 2020 #29
This is really at the crux of it. Resentment and bitterness. smirkymonkey Aug 2020 #31
some ideas RazzleCat Aug 2020 #6
Some excellent thoughts. Mick Travis Aug 2020 #18
You can't fuck in a voting booth. coti Aug 2020 #20
Lots of right wing bigots in rural areas. Not all people who go to protests care about issues JI7 Aug 2020 #8
There were two young women, 20-something, Ilsa Aug 2020 #9
With regard to the youth not voting but going out to protest In It to Win It Aug 2020 #10
Do you want an honest answer? DSandra Aug 2020 #11
Then why do black/brown working class vote Dem? radius777 Aug 2020 #34
I'm not being an apologist for them... DSandra Aug 2020 #42
Incompatible culture, they don't want what we offer Amishman Aug 2020 #12
Rural Republican voters are not voting against their interests. Mariana Aug 2020 #13
rural america is home to not so smart people and racists beachbumbob Aug 2020 #14
And that's why they think Dem's are a bunch of snobby elites Bayard Aug 2020 #15
sometimes it is what it is but to say folks in rural alabama have same exposure to life, education beachbumbob Aug 2020 #16
Its not better experience Bayard Aug 2020 #32
protests are parties, voting is work? nt msongs Aug 2020 #17
Yep!! LeftInTX Aug 2020 #33
Because you don't have to register to protest? denem Aug 2020 #49
Young people Jamaal510 Aug 2020 #19
There were longer lines for voting in areas where young people vote JonLP24 Aug 2020 #37
They are generally pretty stupid. roamer65 Aug 2020 #21
They are generally pretty stupid because they and their families did not have the same privileges... DSandra Aug 2020 #23
This message was self-deleted by its author roamer65 Aug 2020 #24
Generally means not all. roamer65 Aug 2020 #25
They can choose to believe something to keep harmony with the community... DSandra Aug 2020 #26
Mmmmm...I don't see that there. It's very polarized. roamer65 Aug 2020 #27
Most city voters are working class folks - many poc, immigrant, etc radius777 Aug 2020 #35
As a child of two immigrants, immigrants have certain advantages DSandra Aug 2020 #40
Tell all rural seniors tRump secretly plans to cut Social Security down to zero. Lock him up. Aug 2020 #30
SSI, Medicare, and USPS - Are gone if Trump is re-elected. This message must be hammered home. Mick Travis Aug 2020 #46
Dems need to pitch a liberal version of white identity politics. radius777 Aug 2020 #36
Guide young people toward the voting booth UCmeNdc Aug 2020 #38
The dark rigidity of much ruralism... Fyrefox Aug 2020 #39
Why are you assuming the young won't vote? lagomorph777 Aug 2020 #41
They never have before, at least in recent elections. Mick Travis Aug 2020 #47
Exactly - they could face an entire lifetime under authoritarian rule. lagomorph777 Aug 2020 #48
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