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Scootaloo

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135. And this is WHY politicians don't give civics lessons every time they speak

Sun Sep 23, 2012, 03:26 AM

Sep 2012

Because some voters are low-information by intent

You and I both know exactly what she meant. The difference is that I'm willing to accept what she said with that understanding, while you want to stick a knife in her because she didn't outline the proposal process explicitly.

I know you said nothing about electing more dems. In fact I rather get the vibe that that's one of the last things on your "to do" list. However, that's what's needed to try to get the DISCLOSE act passed, or failing that, get an amendment proposed.

If you've got a better idea, feel free to enlighten us.

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Rep. Nancy Pelosi Promises To Overturn 'Citizens United' If We Give Her Back The House [View all] bigtree Sep 2012 OP

Please make it happen! ananda Sep 2012 #1

I second that Flashmann Sep 2012 #2

She always knew the was to my heart. n/t hrmjustin Sep 2012 #3

I totally believe she'll try to make it happen, bullwinkle428 Sep 2012 #4

sounds great & she means it.. But the process. Its impossible. cyclezealot Sep 2012 #138

Make it so Berlum Sep 2012 #5

! n/t porphyrian Sep 2012 #6

But what about the Boner? 1GirlieGirl Sep 2012 #7

I love this photo -- it always makes me cry with the pain of too much joy. nt SDjack Sep 2012 #10

This is the quintessential photo of what People orpupilofnature57 Sep 2012 #32

What a great shot! polichick Sep 2012 #55

Boner is soft. The republicans are going to sweep him aside, win or lose. bluestate10 Sep 2012 #94

Keep it the government of the many not the government of the money. WHICH BLUES YOU VOTING 4? Tigress DEM Sep 2012 #8

Thanks for the link! smirkymonkey Sep 2012 #42

Just a note CitizenPatriot Sep 2012 #111

Yeah, I'm just looking at the voting info. Tigress DEM Sep 2012 #119

Six months later: "Overturning Citizens United is off the table" DerekG Sep 2012 #9

ridiculous comparison bigtree Sep 2012 #13

This message was self-deleted by its author AnotherMcIntosh Sep 2012 #20

When you don't have a prayer of getting something passed, you take it off the table. randome Sep 2012 #34

This message was self-deleted by its author AnotherMcIntosh Sep 2012 #37

Since neither of us is a mind-reader, both our suggestions are equally valid. randome Sep 2012 #52

This message was self-deleted by its author AnotherMcIntosh Sep 2012 #56

No, but you DO have to know how occam's razor WORKS. Scootaloo Sep 2012 #67

This message was self-deleted by its author AnotherMcIntosh Sep 2012 #69

Which is what you're doing. Scootaloo Sep 2012 #72

This message was self-deleted by its author AnotherMcIntosh Sep 2012 #79

Same facts, different interpretations. philly_bob Sep 2012 #124

This message was self-deleted by its author AnotherMcIntosh Sep 2012 #125

Some of us have the ability to read above a third-grade level, Another. Scootaloo Sep 2012 #128

So it IS like impeachment, hughee99 Sep 2012 #65

Dont think she has a prayer of getting public financing passed Egnever Sep 2012 #71

And ratification of an amendment has a prayer of getting passed? JVS Sep 2012 #130

if she can't get the votes in committee bigtree Sep 2012 #44

This message was self-deleted by its author AnotherMcIntosh Sep 2012 #45

so you just dismiss the health care initiatives in the bill bigtree Sep 2012 #103

This message was self-deleted by its author AnotherMcIntosh Sep 2012 #104

I work retail and I learned a long time ago bigtree Sep 2012 #146

This message was self-deleted by its author AnotherMcIntosh Sep 2012 #148

'health care' provisions in the ACA are certainly managed through the different insurance plans bigtree Sep 2012 #150

This message was self-deleted by its author AnotherMcIntosh Sep 2012 #151

+1000 orpupilofnature57 Sep 2012 #31

I believe her. nt Honeycombe8 Sep 2012 #11

I'm gonna hold her to this. Demeter Sep 2012 #12

This message was self-deleted by its author AnotherMcIntosh Sep 2012 #24

Actually, you don't have to be a voter in her district to "hold her to this" any citizen can. Tigress DEM Sep 2012 #28

This message was self-deleted by its author AnotherMcIntosh Sep 2012 #35

They don't read their emails anyway. former9thward Sep 2012 #59

This message was self-deleted by its author AnotherMcIntosh Sep 2012 #60

That actually is one problem with technology. former9thward Sep 2012 #66

Then if the subject line is all they read, make it good. Tigress DEM Sep 2012 #121

And gone out and signed petittions etc... Tigress DEM Sep 2012 #120

We'd probably need about 65 Democrats in the Senate then NewJeffCT Sep 2012 #14

I believe it-She's a "pit-bull" fredamae Sep 2012 #15

Yeah, the pitbull who Carolina Sep 2012 #21

She's a Sam Nunn Democrat orpupilofnature57 Sep 2012 #36

The only place impeachment was ohheckyeah Sep 2012 #74

This is one constitutional amendment that people would vote for Patiod Sep 2012 #16

Too bad that people don't vote for federal Constitutional amendents n/t SickOfTheOnePct Sep 2012 #91

I haven't seen it, yet. eallen Sep 2012 #97

This message was self-deleted by its author AnotherMcIntosh Sep 2012 #17

For that she doesn't deserve a next time. orpupilofnature57 Sep 2012 #30

Here is a compelling reason for Pelosi to "undo" Citizen's United & reform campaign finance process Tigress DEM Sep 2012 #122

This message was self-deleted by its author AnotherMcIntosh Sep 2012 #123

I'll never understand how SCOTUS could find ANY "constitutional" basis for their decision. TahitiNut Sep 2012 #18

This message was self-deleted by its author theKed Sep 2012 #112

On Corporations theKed Sep 2012 #113

is this the democratic equivalent of the teahacks promising to overturn "Obamacare" geckosfeet Sep 2012 #19

No. More like the Republicans aspiring to overturn "Roe versus Wade". Nye Bevan Sep 2012 #48

My thoughts exactly SickOfTheOnePct Sep 2012 #87

I'll wait and see. 99Forever Sep 2012 #22

Oh how I hope this happens! Beaverhausen Sep 2012 #23

Another reason to get out the vote. WinstonSmith4740 Sep 2012 #25

On day # 1 this should be the first order of business. sarcasmo Sep 2012 #26

A nice cherry on top of that would be... MrMickeysMom Sep 2012 #27

Sorry Nancy " Our Democracy isn't on the TABLE " orpupilofnature57 Sep 2012 #29

I don't Trust Nancy Heather MC Sep 2012 #39

Exactly !!! Trust is earned and she's Bankrupt. orpupilofnature57 Sep 2012 #40

I don't either, past history has shown that. nt Raine Sep 2012 #107

exactly Carolina Sep 2012 #143

I think everyone learned an important lesson Laurajr Sep 2012 #33

Don't you mean "can't negotiate with Republicans"? upi402 Sep 2012 #50

yeap typo...just too excited when typing! Laurajr Sep 2012 #89

OK, I have a great respect for soon to be House Majority Leader Pelosi, Zorra Sep 2012 #38

Even with a 100% majority, it wouldn't happen dems_rightnow Sep 2012 #41

I'm thinking that our best bet is for Obama to appoint another liberal SCOTUS justice, Zorra Sep 2012 #43

or three DonRedwood Sep 2012 #80

Retire? They're going to be GURNEYED out. HughBeaumont Sep 2012 #141

Bingo! Capt. Obvious Sep 2012 #51

Absoltely Egnever Sep 2012 #73

Now this I can see from my rooftop Hutzpa Sep 2012 #46

The Nancy Pelsoi who promised to drain the swamp and then took if off the table? rocktivity Sep 2012 #47

i just love promises upi402 Sep 2012 #49

This message was self-deleted by its author AnotherMcIntosh Sep 2012 #53

Way yat! lonestarnot Sep 2012 #54

It ruins the media during elections gulliver Sep 2012 #57

Let's give US a Congress that will work for US! elleng Sep 2012 #58

This message was self-deleted by its author AnotherMcIntosh Sep 2012 #61

He will. Read about him: elleng Sep 2012 #62

The Voting Rights Act needs reforming, too! PADemD Sep 2012 #63

I'm cool with that. Our district is up for grabs - Platts kept his word and isn't running again. HopeHoops Sep 2012 #64

Wow, look at this thread... Scootaloo Sep 2012 #68

This message was self-deleted by its author AnotherMcIntosh Sep 2012 #70

Nothing draws trolls like powerful Dem women. Odin2005 Sep 2012 #78

LOL what a bunch of tripe Egnever Sep 2012 #82

Your stupid negativism is a self-fulfilling prophesy. Odin2005 Sep 2012 #85

LOL Reality sucks sometimes Egnever Sep 2012 #132

You do understand how amending the constitution works, right? Scootaloo Sep 2012 #131

Do you understand she is promising to get it done? Egnever Sep 2012 #134

And this is WHY politicians don't give civics lessons every time they speak Scootaloo Sep 2012 #135

I remember people on here used to call Nancy Pelosi a PLUTOCRAT just because she has some money. Zalatix Sep 2012 #75

If you buy that BS you're a sucker Egnever Sep 2012 #77

Better to aim low than to aim high and risk disappointment, eh? Gotcha. Zalatix Sep 2012 #153

This actually makes me dislike Nancy Egnever Sep 2012 #76

The only good thing about the 2010 election is that it devastated the Blue Dogs. Odin2005 Sep 2012 #81

A lot of democrats that stand a chance of winning in the south and giving bluestate10 Sep 2012 #95

So do it. aquart Sep 2012 #83

The skepticism on this thread is well earned. n/t pa28 Sep 2012 #84

the 2010 election purged a lot of obstructionist Blue Dogs out of our party. Odin2005 Sep 2012 #86

THe blue dogs that are running this year are better than the near republican one bluestate10 Sep 2012 #96

K&R Tarheel_Dem Sep 2012 #88

Good! That's her goal - she may not be able to achieve it treestar Sep 2012 #90

SCOTUS saidsimplesimon Sep 2012 #92

Electoral College. bluestate10 Sep 2012 #99

Not when it involves other people treestar Sep 2012 #100

I agree. bluestate10 Sep 2012 #98

I urge every DU member that is a strong democrat to either get involved in local bluestate10 Sep 2012 #93

Ah yes, dear Nancy Oilwellian Sep 2012 #101

'was willing to' bigtree Sep 2012 #102

She did not only because... Oilwellian Sep 2012 #106

Wow, tough crowd. Would you rather she *didn't* promise to overturn Citizens United?! reformist2 Sep 2012 #105

LOL! Well, she's talking out her ass. Who's supposed to applaud that? Poll_Blind Sep 2012 #110

well said and Carolina Sep 2012 #144

I'm all for getting the house back but I won't be holding my breath waiting for Pelosi Raine Sep 2012 #108

Sure she WANTS to see it, but its hard to believe her. jonesgirl Sep 2012 #109

Madame Speaker, we'll give you the numbers, I hope. freshwest Sep 2012 #114

So How Do We Regain the House? That is the question. YOHABLO Sep 2012 #115

What a crock. Need 2/3 of both houses & 3/4 of state legislatures. & Disclose Act? HoHum progree Sep 2012 #116

Thank you dreamnightwind Sep 2012 #137

Yes and other things! The Wielding Truth Sep 2012 #117

This isn't a promise, it's a wish list DireStrike Sep 2012 #118

Let's help her make it happen! Everyone find a good Dem running in a house race SaveAmerica Sep 2012 #126

That's a Huge Promise... Xyzse Sep 2012 #127

Is this really possible? JVS Sep 2012 #129

That should help win some B Calm Sep 2012 #133

that makes my hackles rise. She knows she can't do it. You should too. cali Sep 2012 #136

Too soon, IMO ecstatic Sep 2012 #139

Getting the supermajority to overturn will be VERY hard. Modify it now until we can get a 5-4 on the RBInMaine Sep 2012 #140

We can't legislatively undo a Constitutional right SickOfTheOnePct Sep 2012 #149

This is the same Nancy Pelosi who let our self-admitted war criminals walk? panzerfaust Sep 2012 #142

Yep, and the same one who crowed that she could have had Rove arrested if she wanted. Poll_Blind Sep 2012 #145

This message was self-deleted by its author AnotherMcIntosh Sep 2012 #152

I hope she is able to do this. SalviaBlue Sep 2012 #147