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89. Supermarket meat is infinitely more cruel than hunting.

Mon Aug 31, 2020, 11:10 PM

Aug 2020

Hunting sucks in my opinion, and the honest unspoken reason people do it is because they enjoy killing things, but at least those animals aren’t subjected to the lifetime of horror that the animals killed for “supermarket meat” endure.

Eating meat is mean and shitty no matter how you dress it up.

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He Shot the Elk on Saturday. It Killed Him the Next Day [View all] Demovictory9 Aug 2020 OP

My sympathies are with the elk. The hunter got what he deserved, and richly too. CaliforniaPeggy Aug 2020 #1

I agree Wicked Blue Aug 2020 #3

Yes it had to suffer horribly overnight Tribetime Aug 2020 #6

Me as well. sinkingfeeling Aug 2020 #27

This Ferrets are Cool Aug 2020 #41

What if I'm hunting for the meat? WhiskeyGrinder Aug 2020 #42

Why? Are the supermarkets low on meat? lunatica Aug 2020 #46

What if I like meat that I know died quickly and was butchered and processed just the way I like it? WhiskeyGrinder Aug 2020 #47

Is that your excuse? lunatica Aug 2020 #50

Nope. WhiskeyGrinder Aug 2020 #55

after COVID-19, come to Sweden, we have fresh elk, moose, and reindeer meat in most stores Celerity Aug 2020 #73

Doesn't come much fresher than that! niyad Aug 2020 #79

"Invasive species" Doremus Sep 2020 #125

The whitetail, in fact, are not native to the area where I live; they didn't come in until after WhiskeyGrinder Sep 2020 #126

So if stretching your budget is the true goal, Doremus Sep 2020 #131

It's not the "true goal." It's a goal. I listed a few in that response, and I can list some more. WhiskeyGrinder Sep 2020 #135

Here's a novel thought, dware Sep 2020 #172

"Dies quickly" does not describe the elk in question very well. soldierant Aug 2020 #64

I was talking about my own experience hunting. WhiskeyGrinder Aug 2020 #66

If you did not and do not do what is being criticized here, soldierant Aug 2020 #68

This thread stems from my response to "hunters should carry cameras instead of guns," which I WhiskeyGrinder Sep 2020 #109

OK, I agree yu can't eat film. soldierant Sep 2020 #167

Ha! WhiskeyGrinder Sep 2020 #168

Those animals were killed too treestar Aug 2020 #84

+1000 smirkymonkey Aug 2020 #86

Agree. Doremus Sep 2020 #124

Supermarket meat is infinitely more cruel than hunting. Codeine Aug 2020 #89

Oh, so animals from the supermarket didn't die? Drahthaardogs Sep 2020 #108

It's not free in the supermarket Polybius Sep 2020 #169

If you are hunting for meat to feed your family you won't be using a bow and arrow. totodeinhere Aug 2020 #74

I don't bowhunt, but I do know people who do, and they use the meat to feed their families. WhiskeyGrinder Sep 2020 #110

No honorable hunter let's one suffer hamsterjill Sep 2020 #97

with a bow and arrow? DBoon Sep 2020 #140

Plenty of bowhunters fill their tag during the season. WhiskeyGrinder Sep 2020 #141

Fair chase... 2naSalit Sep 2020 #176

Thanks for saying it. zentrum Aug 2020 #58

Agreed. n/t totodeinhere Aug 2020 #71

Absolutely, for a change the hunter got just what he deserved 😆 Raine Aug 2020 #96

Human lives Elk lives Johnny2X2X Sep 2020 #115

I read that paragraph three times. alphafemale Aug 2020 #2

The "terrible twist" is that the elk lived long enough to gore the hunter. CaliforniaPeggy Aug 2020 #5

Hmm. Pity. NurseJackie Aug 2020 #4

. . . Codeine Aug 2020 #29

The elk had the right...and I despise bow and arrow hunting the most. Karadeniz Aug 2020 #7

Sorry for being callous, but I don't caribou. Poor elk. Beakybird Aug 2020 #8

Never bring a bow to an antler fight. cayugafalls Aug 2020 #9

winner bigtree Sep 2020 #118

" the meat was donated to the Tillamook County Jail." johnp3907 Aug 2020 #10

lol nt coti Aug 2020 #14

Maybe from both carcasses? Crunchy Frog Aug 2020 #18

Served... "with some fava beans and a nice Chianti." Talitha Aug 2020 #30

Both? lunatica Aug 2020 #48

The secret's in the sauce Ilsa Aug 2020 #51

! johnp3907 Aug 2020 #54

You said "frank" but don't you mean "flank"? Ilsa Aug 2020 #78

I was just thinking about that scene the other day. Had to explain it to someone. niyad Aug 2020 #76

Turnabout is fair play renate Aug 2020 #11

If there's a problem with the elk population it means there's not enough wolves. hunter Sep 2020 #127

I can't handle hunting with bow and arrow. grumpyduck Aug 2020 #12

Years ago, a similar accident hunting accident killed our neighbor. dem in texas Aug 2020 #13

Placing oneself in the vicinity of a justly enraged grizzly Crunchy Frog Aug 2020 #23

Lol! nt ecstatic Aug 2020 #77

it sounds like dinner............... for the bear! Celerity Aug 2020 #85

Trophy hunters are the scum of the earth. Coventina Aug 2020 #93

They made prisoners eat a dead hunter? Ew gross NightWatcher Aug 2020 #15

Soylent Green, ya know. Wednesdays Aug 2020 #26

Ooh, well played Mr. Elk! 🦌 Crunchy Frog Aug 2020 #16

It only counts as a "sport" if both "teams" have a fair chance to win Withywindle Aug 2020 #17

But they do. WhiskeyGrinder Aug 2020 #43

No, I don't mean the animal has a fair chance of staying alive Withywindle Aug 2020 #72

Thank you!! n/t Coventina Aug 2020 #94

Do you feel this way about all animals raised for food? WhiskeyGrinder Sep 2020 #111

Unless you all are vegetarians who don't wear leather Drahthaardogs Aug 2020 #19

Yes!! THIS. AkFemDem Aug 2020 #24

Never had a problem with people who hunt to eat . . . hatrack Aug 2020 #25

The difference is Disaffected Aug 2020 #31

Exactly. You nailed it. Too bad the same thing didn't happen to Trump Junior mtnsnake Aug 2020 #57

Exactly. You nailed it too. Disaffected Aug 2020 #70

Even if you are a vegetarian, something had to die. panader0 Aug 2020 #34

It is pretty clear that plants do not have anything resembling consciousness. Voltaire2 Sep 2020 #123

Thank You!!!!! dware Aug 2020 #82

very true treestar Aug 2020 #83

I do not eat meat or wear leather garybeck Aug 2020 #88

I don't do those things, Codeine Aug 2020 #90

I don't eat meat or use leather. Coventina Aug 2020 #95

I didn't wish him dead. I'm happy he lost. There's a difference. Iggo Sep 2020 #100

No, there's not. Drahthaardogs Sep 2020 #106

There absolutely is. Iggo Sep 2020 #114

Nah, that's fucked up and it just plays into the whole Republican "liberals are crazy" message Drahthaardogs Sep 2020 #120

Republicans haven't called me crazy and a liar this morning. Iggo Sep 2020 #132

Well, a lot of blue collar democrata hunt Drahthaardogs Sep 2020 #139

I am a vegetarian and I don't wear leather Raine Sep 2020 #101

I have no problem with ppl who hunt common species like whitetail deer if they're hungry. Withywindle Sep 2020 #103

I eat meat and I wear leather (Vintage, in the latter) Withywindle Sep 2020 #105

Elk are NOT rare Drahthaardogs Sep 2020 #107

Elks are rare? dware Sep 2020 #116

I admit, I was thinking more of those African trophy hunter dickheads. Withywindle Sep 2020 #128

Trophy "hunters" are, IMHO, are not true hunters, dware Sep 2020 #159

vegetarian who doesn't wear leather here! Voltaire2 Sep 2020 #122

Your self-righteousness is most likely brought on by simple bias. LanternWaste Sep 2020 #154

And your self righteous comes you believing your"above" it Drahthaardogs Sep 2020 #155

+100. nt dware Sep 2020 #160

Now if all the tortured and abused factory-farmed animals could do the same thing! demmiblue Aug 2020 #20

I wish they could renate Sep 2020 #129

If hunting is a sport.... Yavin4 Aug 2020 #21

More like one all Happy Hoosier Aug 2020 #32

Nil-nil draw. Codeine Aug 2020 #91

Elk 1 Hunter 0... Karma. Jack-o-Lantern Aug 2020 #22

"A terrible twist"? Codeine Aug 2020 #28

Good on the elk. geomon666 Aug 2020 #33

Oh well RhodeIslandOne Aug 2020 #35

And yet, Gums and Junior live. Totally Tunsie Aug 2020 #36

I wouldn't call it a terrible twist. Justifiable, yes. C Moon Aug 2020 #37

Pretty good twist to me. Not terrible at all. TeamPooka Aug 2020 #38

Shouldn't have been shooting Susan Calvin Aug 2020 #39

In remembrance of the hunter, the prison should serve the elk with tots and pears TheBlackAdder Aug 2020 #40

Karma is not pleasant SheltieLover Aug 2020 #44

I'm a deer hunter. Usually put 1-3 in the freezer every year for the world's healthiest meat. GulfCoast66 Aug 2020 #45

I can't agree Major Nikon Aug 2020 #59

Not talking about just the method of dispatch. Susan Calvin Aug 2020 #61

yep Kali Aug 2020 #65

I'm still not sure we disagree. I don't bow hunt. GulfCoast66 Sep 2020 #98

I'm just replying you your statement about the death itself Major Nikon Sep 2020 #121

Factory farms is not just the method of dispatch. Susan Calvin Aug 2020 #62

This message was self-deleted by its author Skittles Sep 2020 #102

This place is amazing sometimes. WhiskeyGrinder Aug 2020 #49

Yes, it is amazing in many ways. Disaffected Aug 2020 #75

And that's why you don't hunt close to dusk. Lars39 Aug 2020 #52

Bingo. nt Susan Calvin Aug 2020 #63

Not so tough without a gun. Marcuse Aug 2020 #53

WoW Disaffected Aug 2020 #80

Yes, I am finding myself strangely mesmerized by that gif. smirkymonkey Aug 2020 #87

My dad once killed a deer with his bow and arrow. It had a muscle reflex and broke his leg in two OMGWTF Aug 2020 #56

I know what you mean about Bambi's mom. Susan Calvin Aug 2020 #69

Poetic justice. Nitram Aug 2020 #60

Karma, Motherfucker. K A R M A ! ! Stinky The Clown Aug 2020 #67

Is it elk season in OR? Did the man have an elk license? niyad Aug 2020 #81

Go Elks!!!! Coventina Aug 2020 #92

Go Elks! Iggo Sep 2020 #99

You want to kill? North Shore Chicago Sep 2020 #104

Killing things gets their sad little dicks hard. Codeine Sep 2020 #112

Hunting is certainly different things for different people. But it doesn't have to be expensive. WhiskeyGrinder Sep 2020 #113

See my reply below- essme Sep 2020 #134

You need to add in the costs of health care for the chronic illnesses that eating meat cause. Doremus Sep 2020 #144

I'ven been eating meat since I was just a wee little child, dware Sep 2020 #161

If you're hunting elk, use a high-powered rifle. Paladin Sep 2020 #117

Sometimes you get the elk, the other times the elk gets you. MrScorpio Sep 2020 #119

Exactly - Well said. GoneOffShore Sep 2020 #151

Not really, it's sometimes you get the elk, dware Sep 2020 #162

Turn about is fair play. jeffreyi Sep 2020 #130

If anyone wants to know why people in the country tend to vote essme Sep 2020 #133

Hunting threads are classics on DU. They're always hilarious. WhiskeyGrinder Sep 2020 #136

Yep, but let's put 2 and 2 together, shall we? essme Sep 2020 #137

People never vote against their own self interests. WhiskeyGrinder Sep 2020 #138

I almost always agree with your posts hurl Sep 2020 #165

People almost always know what is best for themselves in the moment. WhiskeyGrinder Sep 2020 #166

I agree Polybius Sep 2020 #170

You are spot on essme Willto Sep 2020 #145

Right on. WE are giving the impression essme Sep 2020 #148

Lighten up, Willto. (nt) Paladin Sep 2020 #150

On a recent visit to my father in his nursing home, he reminisced about his hunting trips. Dial H For Hero Sep 2020 #142

Some pictures of hunters for this thread. Dial H For Hero Sep 2020 #143

Ginsburg and Kagan as well. WhiskeyGrinder Sep 2020 #146

Sure, but there's a difference between a big bull elk and smallish game birds FakeNoose Sep 2020 #152

Yes, elk are much bigger and more photogenic. But many posters on this thread are attacking all Dial H For Hero Sep 2020 #157

Nature gets a win Yeehah Sep 2020 #147

All the meat? Not too many people will eat 'long pig'. GoneOffShore Sep 2020 #149

Can't really respect anyone who is entertained by the killing of sentient life. LanternWaste Sep 2020 #153

"We just do it to put food on the table" Codeine Sep 2020 #158

Also for their Disaffected Sep 2020 #163

I'm curious to know, dware Sep 2020 #164

I'm referring to recreational, trophy, thrill-kill etc. hunting, Disaffected Sep 2020 #171

My father can accurately be described as a recreational hunter. Ww did eat everything he killed Dial H For Hero Sep 2020 #173

No, if he wasn't using the "we eat everything" Disaffected Sep 2020 #174

He never used any excuse at all. The issue of hunting being unethical never came up a single time Dial H For Hero Sep 2020 #175

No. Disaffected Sep 2020 #177

He wasn't rationalizing anything. As I said, the issue never even came up. Dial H For Hero Sep 2020 #178

OK, my last post on the topic... Disaffected Sep 2020 #179

You call it.... Willto Sep 2020 #180

You really haven't been Disaffected Sep 2020 #181

I was asking you to clarify *your* position. I don't rationalize hunting for pleasure with the Dial H For Hero Sep 2020 #182

Thoughts and prayers XanaDUer2 Sep 2020 #156