Lawrence just had Dr Vin Gupta on explain that herd immunity does not work. Sweden is suffering.

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8. it's bollocks, we never were trying for herd immunity, they are gaslighting

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it is shameful

and no we do not have the highest number in in Europe in terms of deaths per million, and we will soon be passed up by the US and Brasil in deaths per million globally, thus knocking us out of the top 10

multiple nations will start to surge past us



that top 10 is bogus anyway, as so many nations are doing fuckall for testing and reporting

these the 15 nations with 100 million of more in population (Vietnam soon will pass 100 million)

if you believe these numbers on this, I have a bridge in London to sell you, real cheap




Now, in terms of Sweden again,

We certainly are not without our HUGE issues

I am NOT trying to sugar-coat anything

We are higher than the other Nordics because of our complete, shameful fuck-up in our elderly care homes, the scattered site elderly care, and the fact we have vastly larger high-risk immigrant/refugee communities, those 2 main areas account for almost all the difference between us and the other Nordics

but I will not abide flat out lies and gas-lighting and us being wrongly used as a political football

I go into a lot of detail on the elderly care cock-ups at the bottom links below


that said, we also have not had a single COVID-19 death for 7 days now, nationwide (funny, I never see this mentioned, let alone the massive overall drop off now for the last two months +)

we have not had a day with more than 20 deaths nationwide since June


https://experience.arcgis.com/experience/09f821667ce64bf7be6f9f87457ed9aa/page/page_0/





and no, our economy was not the same or worse than rest of Europe (another lie that was started before the numbers came out, and then when they did come out and showed that to be a lie, it was not only never retracted, but is now being repeated yet again),

the EU dropped on average 40% more than we did, and we also were the only EU nation of size who had positive growth in Q1

and no, we did not (like they also lied about on that segment) keep all the clubs, restos and bars open with no restrictions, and no it was not the bloody Wild West here with people running around like madmen/madwomen


I go into a lot of detail here and documentaion here:

https://www.democraticunderground.com/100214004074

and here

https://www.democraticunderground.com/100214002169

including my replies, which go into further detail