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BOG PERSON

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56. i didn't make that up! believe it or not.

Sun Sep 23, 2012, 07:40 PM

Sep 2012

i learned it from Peter Singer

Animals feel pain and feeling pain is the grounds for one's interest to be considered. In general one should not cause another pain if it can be avoided. Having pain brought upon one, or having one's pain not addressed by the other, is a moral call upon us, claims Singer.

Thus to be a "speciesist" is to consider the interests of one's own species as more important that the interest of another species MERELY on the grounds of membership in the species.

Singer is not saying that all interests are identical. He roundly denies that. However, in relation to the question of suffering pain, he holds that the pain of an animal is just as important as the pain of a human if pain is the only consideration.

Suppose there is only room for ONE being to enter a space that will be protected from an upcoming deadly storm. There are ten candidates for the one space. Without question nine of them must be excluded. How shall we choose? We must use the principle of equality in guiding our choice.

http://www.websteruniv.edu/~corbetre/philosophy/animals/singer.html

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You forgot one orpupilofnature57 Sep 2012 #1

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wasn't that really john connor's goal though? BOG PERSON Sep 2012 #19

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...and Thomas Jefferson owned slaves. Cooley Hurd Sep 2012 #29

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i wonder how the slaves felt about it (n/t) BOG PERSON Sep 2012 #53

Like militant supremacists oh yeah and Radical species orpupilofnature57 Sep 2012 #55

i didn't make that up! believe it or not. BOG PERSON Sep 2012 #56

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My Avatar, and he was exiled from the world orpupilofnature57 Sep 2012 #57

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