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GeorgiaPeanut

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15. Overconfidence is so 2016ish

Tue Sep 8, 2020, 10:55 AM

Sep 2020

SOS Clinton did not attack Trump viciously because she was advised not to rock the boat and that she would win. She played footsy with the fake email imbroglio instead of attacking it head on. She took WI and MI for granted and didn't visit there in the last weeks.

This made many voters think that the election was in the bag and their vote was not needed.

That history makes everyone motivated this time around. No one is going to not vote unless they are comatose.

A different dynamic altogether.

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A simple observation about that dreaded attitude called "overconfidence" [View all] Tom Rinaldo Sep 2020 OP

K&R MaryMagdaline Sep 2020 #1

The Roman Legions managed to win battles without bagpipes... brooklynite Sep 2020 #2

True. They had a different mystique going for them. Tom Rinaldo Sep 2020 #6

yeahbut. they had war dogs. ihas2stinkyfeet Sep 2020 #10

The Roman Legions' greatest fear-inducing tool was simply their close-ranked marching formations. Aristus Sep 2020 #21

An implacable mass of grim silent men sarge43 Sep 2020 #36

Silence was also an effective fear-inducing tool for our own troops. Aristus Sep 2020 #37

Silence can be terrifying sarge43 Sep 2020 #38

And the outnumbered English beat the French at the Battle of Agincourt, too, The Velveteen Ocelot Sep 2020 #30

Seriously, I haven't seen, read, or heard anyone who is "overconfident" about November 3. catbyte Sep 2020 #3

Agree Johnny2X2X Sep 2020 #5

Yes. I am tired of being accused of it. LakeArenal Sep 2020 #39

Think if Biden was down this big Johnny2X2X Sep 2020 #42

That is certainly an opinion. LakeArenal Sep 2020 #43

Just Win. It Is A Must. dalton99a Sep 2020 #4

Been waiting to see this. Thanks. LakeArenal Sep 2020 #40

did democrats OVER confidence with 2018 have any bearing with the outcome? Last time I looked beachbumbob Sep 2020 #7

Exactly n/t Tom Rinaldo Sep 2020 #8

Bingo we have a winner grantcart Sep 2020 #34

What I find annoying BannonsLiver Sep 2020 #9

And especially that national polls don't matter. When that national spread is big, yes they do! Silent3 Sep 2020 #13

One important caveat regarding polls GeorgiaPeanut Sep 2020 #16

Good point Sugarcoated Sep 2020 #45

If Biden were behind by 10 points, I bet the polls would matter ... StarfishSaver Sep 2020 #25

Repeat 2018, where democrats did what they needed and got a beachbumbob Sep 2020 #32

There's a big push to bring up 2016. LakeArenal Sep 2020 #41

Money dries up for candidates who are perceived to be falling out of the running. BlueWavePsych Sep 2020 #11

well said and tsunamis- ihas2stinkyfeet Sep 2020 #12

The famous trump 2017 tax cut meant to inflict damage on Bluestates beachbumbob Sep 2020 #33

Hear, hear! Alacritous Crier Sep 2020 #14

Overconfidence is so 2016ish GeorgiaPeanut Sep 2020 #15

2016 dynamics gave way to 2018 dynamics. Tom Rinaldo Sep 2020 #17

+1 GeorgiaPeanut Sep 2020 #18

Analysis that ignores faceboook & Russia not reality delisen Sep 2020 #19

They were players in 2016, and yes they will be again. Tom Rinaldo Sep 2020 #23

facebook and Russia are common to both 2016 and 2018 GeorgiaPeanut Sep 2020 #26

its more of the slag on D bullshit Cosmocat Sep 2020 #20

"the downside of insufficient confidence" - defeatism kills enthusiasm lagomorph777 Sep 2020 #22

Thank you StarfishSaver Sep 2020 #24

+1 GeorgiaPeanut Sep 2020 #27

+2 crickets Sep 2020 #28

Agreed. The overconfident tag is very Putinesque. Tommymac Sep 2020 #29

I agree. I don't see any signs of overconfidence. The Velveteen Ocelot Sep 2020 #31

...you can still LOOOOOSE!" is more designed to tamp down our enthusiasm... Tom Rinaldo Sep 2020 #44

I have said this over and over and over Sugarcoated Sep 2020 #35

Hey Tom Sugarcoated Sep 2020 #46

Not at all. Go for it. Thanks for asking n/t Tom Rinaldo Sep 2020 #47