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In reply to the discussion: Mitt Romney: It's fair I pay a lower tax rate than people making $50,000 [View all]SickOfTheOnePct
(8,710 posts)44. Who said they didn't pay taxes?
I said that 47% don't pay federal income taxes, and that is true.
You don't know what's in his effective tax rate? Well, seeing as it's from his federal 1040, it would be federal income tax, including capital gains taxes. Not Social Security taxes, not Medicare taxes, not state incomes taxes.
You're correct in that we don't know what he paid prior to 2010, but we do know what he paid in 2010 and 2011, because he has released those returns.
And if you don't believe me that 47% don't pay federal income tax, perhaps you'll believe the Center for Budget Policy & Priorities:
http://www.cbpp.org/cms/index.cfm?fa=view&id=3505
Close to half of U.S. households currently do not owe federal income tax. The Urban Institute-Brookings Tax Policy Center estimates that 46 percent of households will owe no federal income tax for 2011. [1] A widely cited figure is a Joint Committee on Taxation estimate that 51 percent of households paid no federal income tax in 2009.[2] (The TPC figure for 2009 also is 51 percent.)
That doesn't mean they don't pay any federal taxes, it just means they don't pay any federal income taxes. When all federal taxes are added up, there is no doubt that someone making $50,000 pays a higher percentage in federal taxes than Romney does, but the 60 Minutes question was specifically about the 14.!% effective federal income tax rate, not the overall federal tax rate. And the premise was false, as I've proven using the IRS tax tables.
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Mitt Romney: It's fair I pay a lower tax rate than people making $50,000 [View all]
ProSense
Sep 2012
OP
Someone should ask Mitt, are capital gains more important than labor? If not, why tax them different
reformist2
Sep 2012
#1
ALL money has already been taxed!!!! When you get it as income, it gets taxed again.
valerief
Sep 2012
#3
that's not technically true, although i certainly agree all income should be taxed the same.
unblock
Sep 2012
#34
The EFFECTIVE corporate tax rate is 12.1; many huge corporations (like GE) pay zero.
SunSeeker
Sep 2012
#27
Romney's capital gains income (the majority of his income) is not subject to payroll taxes.
JDPriestly
Sep 2012
#41
A person making 50,000, in my experience, will have between 28 and 33% of that withheld.
DLnyc
Sep 2012
#9
& 1/3 of those people make less than $10K a year. about 500,000 make over $100K.
HiPointDem
Sep 2012
#51
Not necessarily. If you added Romney's SS & Medicare to the tally, it wouldn't budge the number
dorkulon
Sep 2012
#94
Romney's tax rate would not be that much higher if he added in his payroll and income taxes.
JDPriestly
Sep 2012
#43
If he were subject to payroll taxes, it would not change the percentage of his income that
JDPriestly
Sep 2012
#95
So, include the amount Romney pays in payroll taxes and see how much difference it makes -- none.
JDPriestly
Sep 2012
#53
lol you sure put a lot of effort into this. In your earlier post you did not specify a specific
grantcart
Sep 2012
#89
So why doesn't the same logic apply to labor? Why doesn't it "discourage work" when you tax
Marr
Sep 2012
#11
gee, my income was already taxed when i earned it, so why should i pay sales tax when i spend it?
unblock
Sep 2012
#37
what? capital has already been taxed at the corporate level? can someone explain to me
HiPointDem
Sep 2012
#48
You would think they would have learned with McStain that Americans don't want to hear that bullshit
trouble.smith
Sep 2012
#79