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73. Historically

Wed Sep 9, 2020, 05:14 PM

Sep 2020

Republicans are more loyal and stay unified while democrats/liberals are more pragmatic. While this may help in a few isolated elections there is a bigger picture that will weaken the Democratic Party.

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Maine Will Be The First-Ever State To Use Ranked-Choice Voting For A Presidential Election [View all] JonLP24 Sep 2020 OP

I'd love to see IRV go national! n/t Silent3 Sep 2020 #1

It was, believe me. nt OAITW r.2.0 Sep 2020 #9

If I lived in Maine... llmart Sep 2020 #2

6? That high? Yavin4 Sep 2020 #80

Excellent! Ms. Toad Sep 2020 #3

Great! Go Maine! jalan48 Sep 2020 #4

Dirigo jpak Sep 2020 #6

Travelled through Maine years ago-took the ferry from Bah Habah to Yarmouth. I met some great folks. jalan48 Sep 2020 #8

This way of voting makes SO much sense that the repukes will try to block it... nt mitch96 Sep 2020 #5

No... lame54 Sep 2020 #92

That's bad for Democrats Trumpocalypse Sep 2020 #7

I assume it will. And by the time that is figured out StClone Sep 2020 #10

Long term it could really weaken the party Trumpocalypse Sep 2020 #11

I think negative partisanship is hurting the country JonLP24 Sep 2020 #14

So supporting the Democratic Party is hurting the country? Trumpocalypse Sep 2020 #17

I'm talking about the negative partisanship JonLP24 Sep 2020 #20

So opposing the Republican Party is hurting the country? Trumpocalypse Sep 2020 #24

I think what hurts DU is asserting, without explanation, that "this hurts the Democrats" muriel_volestrangler Sep 2020 #84

I think it hurts DU Trumpocalypse Sep 2020 #88

Why are Maine Republicans trying to overturn RCV? jpak Sep 2020 #15

No idea Trumpocalypse Sep 2020 #18

Yes it does and that is why the gop opposes it jpak Sep 2020 #19

Just saying yes it does Trumpocalypse Sep 2020 #22

It already has. Look up Jared Golden jpak Sep 2020 #25

One race, big deal Trumpocalypse Sep 2020 #28

It proves you are wrong jpak Sep 2020 #30

No it proves in one race it benefited Trumpocalypse Sep 2020 #32

And your data are what? jpak Sep 2020 #34

My data is other countries Trumpocalypse Sep 2020 #36

Which of those countries use RCV? jpak Sep 2020 #38

Anything that helps other parties Trumpocalypse Sep 2020 #39

It doesn't help other parties jpak Sep 2020 #40

Yes it does Trumpocalypse Sep 2020 #41

A two party system is insanity. PTWB Sep 2020 #47

I support the Democratic Party Trumpocalypse Sep 2020 #51

Third parties caused those losses *because of the old 'a plurality wins all' method*. IRV stops that muriel_volestrangler Sep 2020 #85

Maybe/maybe not Trumpocalypse Sep 2020 #86

Right... this is majority wins rather than plurality Zing Zing Zingbah Sep 2020 #115

+1000 Celerity Sep 2020 #76

It isn't meant to strengthen any party in particular Zing Zing Zingbah Sep 2020 #50

Well I support strengthening the Democratic Party Trumpocalypse Sep 2020 #52

I'm thinking you are probably concerned about the 3rd parties/independents Zing Zing Zingbah Sep 2020 #62

I am concerned that over the long term Trumpocalypse Sep 2020 #67

I don't think that is going to happen Zing Zing Zingbah Sep 2020 #70

I hope you are right Trumpocalypse Sep 2020 #71

I think it does Zing Zing Zingbah Sep 2020 #72

Historically Trumpocalypse Sep 2020 #73

But unless that "excuse" adds up to a sizeable amount, in INCREASES the vote... Silent3 Sep 2020 #12

If Trumpocalypse Sep 2020 #16

It's all probabilities, but the odds are generally in our favor Silent3 Sep 2020 #29

Do you really think people who voted for Trumpocalypse Sep 2020 #35

Post removed Post removed Sep 2020 #42

I'm not fine with weakening the Democratic Party Trumpocalypse Sep 2020 #43

What does that mean? "Would of" PTWB Sep 2020 #48

Go here Trumpocalypse Sep 2020 #54

There is no entry for "would of" - are you capable of defining what that is supposed to mean? PTWB Sep 2020 #55

Sorry Trumpocalypse Sep 2020 #59

Semantics? PTWB Sep 2020 #60

No Trumpocalypse Sep 2020 #61

Hmm PTWB Sep 2020 #63

My point was easy enough to understand Trumpocalypse Sep 2020 #64

Yes, I can refute it just as easily as you can prove it. PTWB Sep 2020 #65

Thanks Trumpocalypse Sep 2020 #68

You've stated an opinion and cited nothing to support it. PTWB Sep 2020 #75

Thanks again Trumpocalypse Sep 2020 #77

You haven't made a point, unfortunately. You've merely stated an opinion. PTWB Sep 2020 #78

No thank you Trumpocalypse Sep 2020 #79

I am evasions? That doesn't make any sense. PTWB Sep 2020 #81

Instead of playing more grammatical games Trumpocalypse Sep 2020 #82

I already addressed your opinion by disagreeing with it. PTWB Sep 2020 #83

I disagree Trumpocalypse Sep 2020 #87

Which voters were going to vote for Democrats that would rank a Republican before a Democrat? PTWB Sep 2020 #89

Some will Trumpocalypse Sep 2020 #90

No one is going to do that on purpose. PTWB Sep 2020 #91

They wouldn't Trumpocalypse Sep 2020 #93

Exactly! PTWB Sep 2020 #94

No Trumpocalypse Sep 2020 #95

Sure it does. PTWB Sep 2020 #96

It might increase turnout Trumpocalypse Sep 2020 #97

But increased turnout does benefit Democrats. PTWB Sep 2020 #98

Yes Trumpocalypse Sep 2020 #99

I see. PTWB Sep 2020 #100

I'm saying there is no data either way Trumpocalypse Sep 2020 #101

Yes there is! PTWB Sep 2020 #102

Yes but not in RCV elections Trumpocalypse Sep 2020 #103

That isn't how data works. PTWB Sep 2020 #104

Actually it is Trumpocalypse Sep 2020 #107

You're wrong once again. PTWB Sep 2020 #108

No I'm not Trumpocalypse Sep 2020 #109

Nonsense. PTWB Sep 2020 #110

In one election it benefited the Democratic candidate Trumpocalypse Sep 2020 #111

Keep going! PTWB Sep 2020 #113

It's one election Trumpocalypse Sep 2020 #117

Ummm NO jpak Sep 2020 #13

There are other remedies Trumpocalypse Sep 2020 #21

RCV is an instant runoff jpak Sep 2020 #23

Not really Trumpocalypse Sep 2020 #26

I have voted in Maine using RCV jpak Sep 2020 #27

Congratulations Trumpocalypse Sep 2020 #31

Post removed Post removed Sep 2020 #33

The weather in Florida is nice. Trumpocalypse Sep 2020 #37

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Thank you Trumpocalypse Sep 2020 #45

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I'd like to thank the academy Trumpocalypse Sep 2020 #53

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I agree Zing Zing Zingbah Sep 2020 #66

I have voted in Maine using RCV. I love it. mainer Sep 2020 #69

Still not a for sure thing from what I have heard Zing Zing Zingbah Sep 2020 #49

If anyone can read this... latest Portland Press Herald article on this Zing Zing Zingbah Sep 2020 #74

That will be very good for 3rd parties. fescuerescue Sep 2020 #105

It doesn't draw anything from the R or D Zing Zing Zingbah Sep 2020 #114

In terms of putting them in office? No fescuerescue Sep 2020 #118

I don't know how this would work. If I was voting in Maine, ... JustABozoOnThisBus Sep 2020 #106

You don't have to pick a second or third choice Zing Zing Zingbah Sep 2020 #112

Ok then, it may work. JustABozoOnThisBus Sep 2020 #116