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88. I think it hurts DU

Reply to muriel_volestrangler (Reply #84)

Thu Sep 10, 2020, 04:51 AM

Sep 2020

When people try to shut down an opinion they don’t agree with by attacking the poster rather than addressing the issue.

And any system that give people an option to support another party rather the Democratic Party by its very nature hurts the Democratic Party.

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Maine Will Be The First-Ever State To Use Ranked-Choice Voting For A Presidential Election [View all] JonLP24 Sep 2020 OP

I'd love to see IRV go national! n/t Silent3 Sep 2020 #1

It was, believe me. nt OAITW r.2.0 Sep 2020 #9

If I lived in Maine... llmart Sep 2020 #2

6? That high? Yavin4 Sep 2020 #80

Excellent! Ms. Toad Sep 2020 #3

Great! Go Maine! jalan48 Sep 2020 #4

Dirigo jpak Sep 2020 #6

Travelled through Maine years ago-took the ferry from Bah Habah to Yarmouth. I met some great folks. jalan48 Sep 2020 #8

This way of voting makes SO much sense that the repukes will try to block it... nt mitch96 Sep 2020 #5

No... lame54 Sep 2020 #92

That's bad for Democrats Trumpocalypse Sep 2020 #7

I assume it will. And by the time that is figured out StClone Sep 2020 #10

Long term it could really weaken the party Trumpocalypse Sep 2020 #11

I think negative partisanship is hurting the country JonLP24 Sep 2020 #14

So supporting the Democratic Party is hurting the country? Trumpocalypse Sep 2020 #17

I'm talking about the negative partisanship JonLP24 Sep 2020 #20

So opposing the Republican Party is hurting the country? Trumpocalypse Sep 2020 #24

I think what hurts DU is asserting, without explanation, that "this hurts the Democrats" muriel_volestrangler Sep 2020 #84

I think it hurts DU Trumpocalypse Sep 2020 #88

Why are Maine Republicans trying to overturn RCV? jpak Sep 2020 #15

No idea Trumpocalypse Sep 2020 #18

Yes it does and that is why the gop opposes it jpak Sep 2020 #19

Just saying yes it does Trumpocalypse Sep 2020 #22

It already has. Look up Jared Golden jpak Sep 2020 #25

One race, big deal Trumpocalypse Sep 2020 #28

It proves you are wrong jpak Sep 2020 #30

No it proves in one race it benefited Trumpocalypse Sep 2020 #32

And your data are what? jpak Sep 2020 #34

My data is other countries Trumpocalypse Sep 2020 #36

Which of those countries use RCV? jpak Sep 2020 #38

Anything that helps other parties Trumpocalypse Sep 2020 #39

It doesn't help other parties jpak Sep 2020 #40

Yes it does Trumpocalypse Sep 2020 #41

A two party system is insanity. PTWB Sep 2020 #47

I support the Democratic Party Trumpocalypse Sep 2020 #51

Third parties caused those losses *because of the old 'a plurality wins all' method*. IRV stops that muriel_volestrangler Sep 2020 #85

Maybe/maybe not Trumpocalypse Sep 2020 #86

Right... this is majority wins rather than plurality Zing Zing Zingbah Sep 2020 #115

+1000 Celerity Sep 2020 #76

It isn't meant to strengthen any party in particular Zing Zing Zingbah Sep 2020 #50

Well I support strengthening the Democratic Party Trumpocalypse Sep 2020 #52

I'm thinking you are probably concerned about the 3rd parties/independents Zing Zing Zingbah Sep 2020 #62

I am concerned that over the long term Trumpocalypse Sep 2020 #67

I don't think that is going to happen Zing Zing Zingbah Sep 2020 #70

I hope you are right Trumpocalypse Sep 2020 #71

I think it does Zing Zing Zingbah Sep 2020 #72

Historically Trumpocalypse Sep 2020 #73

But unless that "excuse" adds up to a sizeable amount, in INCREASES the vote... Silent3 Sep 2020 #12

If Trumpocalypse Sep 2020 #16

It's all probabilities, but the odds are generally in our favor Silent3 Sep 2020 #29

Do you really think people who voted for Trumpocalypse Sep 2020 #35

Post removed Post removed Sep 2020 #42

I'm not fine with weakening the Democratic Party Trumpocalypse Sep 2020 #43

What does that mean? "Would of" PTWB Sep 2020 #48

Go here Trumpocalypse Sep 2020 #54

There is no entry for "would of" - are you capable of defining what that is supposed to mean? PTWB Sep 2020 #55

Sorry Trumpocalypse Sep 2020 #59

Semantics? PTWB Sep 2020 #60

No Trumpocalypse Sep 2020 #61

Hmm PTWB Sep 2020 #63

My point was easy enough to understand Trumpocalypse Sep 2020 #64

Yes, I can refute it just as easily as you can prove it. PTWB Sep 2020 #65

Thanks Trumpocalypse Sep 2020 #68

You've stated an opinion and cited nothing to support it. PTWB Sep 2020 #75

Thanks again Trumpocalypse Sep 2020 #77

You haven't made a point, unfortunately. You've merely stated an opinion. PTWB Sep 2020 #78

No thank you Trumpocalypse Sep 2020 #79

I am evasions? That doesn't make any sense. PTWB Sep 2020 #81

Instead of playing more grammatical games Trumpocalypse Sep 2020 #82

I already addressed your opinion by disagreeing with it. PTWB Sep 2020 #83

I disagree Trumpocalypse Sep 2020 #87

Which voters were going to vote for Democrats that would rank a Republican before a Democrat? PTWB Sep 2020 #89

Some will Trumpocalypse Sep 2020 #90

No one is going to do that on purpose. PTWB Sep 2020 #91

They wouldn't Trumpocalypse Sep 2020 #93

Exactly! PTWB Sep 2020 #94

No Trumpocalypse Sep 2020 #95

Sure it does. PTWB Sep 2020 #96

It might increase turnout Trumpocalypse Sep 2020 #97

But increased turnout does benefit Democrats. PTWB Sep 2020 #98

Yes Trumpocalypse Sep 2020 #99

I see. PTWB Sep 2020 #100

I'm saying there is no data either way Trumpocalypse Sep 2020 #101

Yes there is! PTWB Sep 2020 #102

Yes but not in RCV elections Trumpocalypse Sep 2020 #103

That isn't how data works. PTWB Sep 2020 #104

Actually it is Trumpocalypse Sep 2020 #107

You're wrong once again. PTWB Sep 2020 #108

No I'm not Trumpocalypse Sep 2020 #109

Nonsense. PTWB Sep 2020 #110

In one election it benefited the Democratic candidate Trumpocalypse Sep 2020 #111

Keep going! PTWB Sep 2020 #113

It's one election Trumpocalypse Sep 2020 #117

Ummm NO jpak Sep 2020 #13

There are other remedies Trumpocalypse Sep 2020 #21

RCV is an instant runoff jpak Sep 2020 #23

Not really Trumpocalypse Sep 2020 #26

I have voted in Maine using RCV jpak Sep 2020 #27

Congratulations Trumpocalypse Sep 2020 #31

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The weather in Florida is nice. Trumpocalypse Sep 2020 #37

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Thank you Trumpocalypse Sep 2020 #45

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I'd like to thank the academy Trumpocalypse Sep 2020 #53

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I agree Zing Zing Zingbah Sep 2020 #66

I have voted in Maine using RCV. I love it. mainer Sep 2020 #69

Still not a for sure thing from what I have heard Zing Zing Zingbah Sep 2020 #49

If anyone can read this... latest Portland Press Herald article on this Zing Zing Zingbah Sep 2020 #74

That will be very good for 3rd parties. fescuerescue Sep 2020 #105

It doesn't draw anything from the R or D Zing Zing Zingbah Sep 2020 #114

In terms of putting them in office? No fescuerescue Sep 2020 #118

I don't know how this would work. If I was voting in Maine, ... JustABozoOnThisBus Sep 2020 #106

You don't have to pick a second or third choice Zing Zing Zingbah Sep 2020 #112

Ok then, it may work. JustABozoOnThisBus Sep 2020 #116