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Lonestarblue

(11,351 posts)
17. I have some relatives who are Trump supporters.
Sun Sep 13, 2020, 09:13 AM
Sep 2020

We don’t discuss politics much these days, but I know some of their attitudes from years past. Racism is certainly a big factor, although all of them would say that they are not racist and have nothing against black and brown people. Their behavior, though, says they do not want such people in their lives. In most small towns, white and minority communities go their separate ways—separate churches, different restaurants, separate funeral homes, etc.

Schools of course are integrated, but white children are generally not allowed to socialize with minorities outside of school. My relatives would not only be horrified if one of their children wanted to date a minority, they would forbid it—even for casual friendship. Trump supporters like his racism and see him “putting black people back in their place”—meaning separate and no part of their majority white experience.

The second factor is religion. Conservatives have been convinced that the US is going to hell because fewer and fewer young people (and older ones, too) see religion as an important part of their lives. Their ministers preach this from the pulpit every Sunday. Trump promises religious freedom, which to them means no abortion for any reason anywhere in the country, the right not to recognize same-sex marriages and the legal right to discriminate against LGBTQ any way they want, and the imposition of Biblical law by the government to regulate what they see as immoral behavior. The last point is especially important to white evangelicals because they believe that their version of Christianity should be declared as the official religion of the US, along with declaring that only English may be spoken or used for documents in this country. They see Trump’s right-wing Supreme Court appointments as paramount for achieving their goals, and they do not consider anything he is doing to make the country weaker internationally as important at all. They have bought into his America First belief that the US is able to go it alone in the world and is strong enough to not need anyone else.

I suspect a lot of Trump supporters have similar beliefs.

A loss for all of us. NT enough Sep 2020 #1
I had 3 Trump clients in a row yesterday which wasn't a surprise because grantcart Sep 2020 #2
The LaRouchies were the same way: polite, professional, well-educated and purveyors ... marble falls Sep 2020 #21
in my experience with people like these women, there is deep rooted racism they hide even better beachbumbob Sep 2020 #3
My sentiment exactly! - n/t mazzarro Sep 2020 #33
The only time I have been surprise is when I didn't account for racism in people's beachbumbob Sep 2020 #39
I don't get it. Jrsygrl96 Sep 2020 #4
I'm still recovering Laha Sep 2020 #14
How did almost marrying a cruel person totally break you? PTWB Sep 2020 #43
You dont see how thats possible? In many ways? oldsoftie Sep 2020 #55
Is she trying to say that not marrying the cruel person broke her? PTWB Sep 2020 #58
I would think the interaction with that person treestar Sep 2020 #60
Interesting anecdotes. I always find these stories very interesting since they give us a smirkymonkey Sep 2020 #5
And they undoubtedly are avid Fox News watchers PatSeg Sep 2020 #22
You can count on that - and therein lies the problem!!!!!!!!!!!! ElementaryPenguin Sep 2020 #54
And Fox News was designed to be addictive PatSeg Sep 2020 #62
I think it's called resolution of dissonance. Walleye Sep 2020 #6
That is an interesting nugget. Provides another glimpse of something for which one answer alone dameatball Sep 2020 #12
Out of curiosity, what were the wonderful things the second woman sinkingfeeling Sep 2020 #7
Good question... PCIntern Sep 2020 #8
I have some relatives who are Trump supporters. Lonestarblue Sep 2020 #17
Yes indeed - n/t mazzarro Sep 2020 #40
First things first - Vote Joinfortmill Sep 2020 #41
On occasion you will get one that is quite charitable treestar Sep 2020 #59
this explains their attitude sheilahi Sep 2020 #9
'Identification with the aggressor" dawg day Sep 2020 #10
What a good answer and disappointing response from her lostnfound Sep 2020 #15
Well, her response was very telling PatSeg Sep 2020 #27
I think thats why Squidly Sep 2020 #78
Exactly PatSeg Sep 2020 #79
OMG! Is she damaged. Joinfortmill Sep 2020 #36
So it's just a game to her. She isn't being harmed personally by Trump. yardwork Sep 2020 #49
Aha! That could explain how many finally see the light when they are personally harmed. tanyev Sep 2020 #66
This is an odd connection, but now you've started me thinking ... FakeNoose Sep 2020 #11
I'm afraid you hit good point. What sort of political Stockholm Syndrome is going on with ... marble falls Sep 2020 #19
If you have chosen a partner who belittles and abuses you luvtheGWN Sep 2020 #65
What I find sad is that the bullies are never called out FakeNoose Sep 2020 #72
a broken nation. rudderless. bereft of education. hateful. spanone Sep 2020 #13
I am in agreement with you. BlueDawn Sep 2020 #16
Interesting. My brother and I who are liberal are the two who will own up to and smirkymonkey Sep 2020 #67
I wonder, too.... BlueDawn Sep 2020 #81
The "undecided" numbers were really bothering me because, more often than not ... marble falls Sep 2020 #18
Could be BUT..... BigOleDummy Sep 2020 #24
I hope not. Joinfortmill Sep 2020 #29
This message was self-deleted by its author Joinfortmill Sep 2020 #32
I agree Joinfortmill Sep 2020 #35
I started traveling on business again just over a month ago and am blow away Snake Plissken Sep 2020 #20
Excuse me. Joinfortmill Sep 2020 #28
I couldn't care less who's fault it is, I'm just telling you exactly what I see Snake Plissken Sep 2020 #52
I just don't understand the elderly supporting trump mnmoderatedem Sep 2020 #23
Elderly and comfortably well off couldn't care less about SS. nt eppur_se_muova Sep 2020 #47
I don't get that either, unless they don't know about it. Bluepinky Sep 2020 #48
They honestly don't believe their payments will ever be affected. Mariana Sep 2020 #64
I take nothing for granted, there's just too many cult members. 634-5789 Sep 2020 #25
Thank you for sharing Joinfortmill Sep 2020 #26
Damn! I didn't interpret that correctly. aka-chmeee Sep 2020 #30
LOL PCIntern Sep 2020 #51
Interesting post, a couple of thoughts here. Bluepinky Sep 2020 #31
I doubt they got to this level of support without heavy doses of rightwing media LymphocyteLover Sep 2020 #34
the common features I've seen of female Trump supporters are LymphocyteLover Sep 2020 #37
Interesting about spousal abuse. ananda Sep 2020 #38
I think I'd always say I'm voting for whoever Buns_of_Fire Sep 2020 #42
"she did not particularly like Biden" Aussie105 Sep 2020 #44
All I see from this OP Proud liberal 80 Sep 2020 #45
PCIntern, you certainly know the right things to say to your patients! Personally I don't Illumination Sep 2020 #46
Hi. I certainly am not saying PCIntern Sep 2020 #50
Yet we still have those who think "ALL Trump voters are racists" oldsoftie Sep 2020 #53
Well, of course the patient feared upsetting you! drbtg1 Sep 2020 #56
I'll never understand how people can consistently vote against their own self-interest. Texin Sep 2020 #57
They aren't voting against their own self-interest. Mariana Sep 2020 #68
i think the link is fear. ihas2stinkyfeet Sep 2020 #61
Interesting. I'm starting to think that this is to inflict pain Kind of Blue Sep 2020 #63
My guess is that both women married it and haven't shaken it off Warpy Sep 2020 #69
I don't know about 'shaking it off', but I rather suspect they married authoritarians Texin Sep 2020 #73
I don't know about 'shaking it off', but I rather suspect they married authoritarians Texin Sep 2020 #74
Underlying anger issues iamateacher Sep 2020 #70
After much thought musclecar6 Sep 2020 #71
I hope you were not TOO vigorous ... JustABozoOnThisBus Sep 2020 #75
Again, it is base personality at play. Some folks are attracted to authoritarian relationships. Midnight Writer Sep 2020 #76
People like these women who insist on believing what they want to FM123 Sep 2020 #77
Narcissism is inculcated in white women. raging moderate Sep 2020 #80
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