Welcome to DU! The truly grassroots left-of-center political community where regular people, not algorithms, drive the discussions and set the standards. Join the community: Create a free account Support DU (and get rid of ads!): Become a Star Member Latest Breaking News Editorials & Other Articles General Discussion The DU Lounge All Forums Issue Forums Culture Forums Alliance Forums Region Forums Support Forums Help & Search

genxlib

(6,138 posts)
38. I am roughly familiar with your background
Sun Sep 13, 2020, 03:12 PM
Sep 2020

And I have the utmost respect and appreciation for your contribution around here. As an Engineer myself, I appreciate all efforts to keep it real when it comes to science and you are one of my favorites in that regard.

But I am not really sure I understand your reluctance on this matter.

Yes, it will take time for the test to react for a result but that is not the same thing as the time it takes to collect the sample and start the reaction. What they describe is a simple outer nasal cavity swab and shaking the swab in a solution. That sounds like something a tech could do in 30 seconds. So a single tech could do a lot of tests.

If multiple techs are needed, there is little doubt that the Big Ten would be willing to invest in that minimal cost if it meant the difference of playing or not playing. There are millions of dollars at stake in every single game so an extra few thousand dollars for testing would be an easy sell. Even if we take your time frame as the standard, they hire four more people and get that down to an hour. That is plenty quick enough considering the time a team spends in a locker room prior to a game.

And that assumes that they don't already have the necessary expertise to administer such an easy test. Every major college team already has Doctors and trainers on staff. The current approval for the test requires medical personnel but that seems likely to change. The test from Abbott is clearly developed to be easy enough to be self administered and targeted at the home use market. Even today, I was in a CVS and they are doing self-administered tests in the drive through. They hand you the kit, tell you to swab yourself, tell you to place it in the liquid vile and hand it back. Even that assumes nasal swabs. Some instant testing uses saliva sample in a spit tube.

I don't think the specimen collection is the issue. It has always been the delay between collection and result that prevents the instant testing.

I am excited about this because it isn't really about football at all. Testing that was rare and slow was the biggest problem we had back in the early months of this pandemic. It stands to reason that reversing that problem would be one of the major factors to move things in the right direction. Cheap, rapid and plentiful testing could return us to normal very quickly. You could have concerts, restaurants and bars if everyone was checked at the door. You could have schools if everyone was screened sufficiently. You could have businesses open if the workers were checked regularly. Most importantly, we could drive the R0 value down so far that the virus could peter out naturally.

While I am as cynical as the next guy about money in sports, this can work to our advantage. Universities are in a unique position of having very smart and innovative people while at the same time being very financially motivated to find a way to make things work. That combination of factors could lead to some exciting developments that can help all of us.

Recommendations

0 members have recommended this reply (displayed in chronological order):

This is Stupid.... LovingA2andMI Sep 2020 #1
Agreed Sherman A1 Sep 2020 #4
Doubtful. 634-5789 Sep 2020 #2
And Growing At: LovingA2andMI Sep 2020 #5
Football players wouldn't necessarily live in dorms or go to classes... Klaralven Sep 2020 #13
Why Not? LovingA2andMI Sep 2020 #23
"Light Years Different"? ProfessorGAC Sep 2020 #3
Rapid testing can be a game changer genxlib Sep 2020 #15
The Logistics Of That ProfessorGAC Sep 2020 #26
The newer tests don't require lab equipment from what I can tell genxlib Sep 2020 #29
Still Talking Minutes Per Test ProfessorGAC Sep 2020 #37
I am roughly familiar with your background genxlib Sep 2020 #38
I'm Not Reluctant About Anything ProfessorGAC Sep 2020 #41
Fair enough genxlib Sep 2020 #43
They just have an alternate definition. ooky Sep 2020 #24
If the return of football is good for Scump Sedona Sep 2020 #6
Selfish, exploitative, superficial people demanding that which a narcissist directs w little regard hlthe2b Sep 2020 #7
BOTTOM LINE: It's all about the Benjamins. 634-5789 Sep 2020 #8
This! Buckeye_Democrat Sep 2020 #10
COVID exploding on college campuses and college towns so lets spread it faster and endanger beachbumbob Sep 2020 #9
I really hope this doesn't happen. smirkymonkey Sep 2020 #18
Even if they can test the athletes themselves, what about all the people LisaL Sep 2020 #11
I would think that and all the support staff is a consideration underpants Sep 2020 #14
Playing the games and having fans in attendance are two entirely different decisions genxlib Sep 2020 #39
But Mama, everybody else is doing it! Chainfire Sep 2020 #12
I saw this coming genxlib Sep 2020 #16
Good call. I read yesterday that the ACC is concerned underpants Sep 2020 #27
My daughter is at Ohio State genxlib Sep 2020 #31
The idiot UW Madison Chancellor gets to vote too luv2fly Sep 2020 #17
Gambling with the lives of young athletes. Here in my area, there's a college athlete who had phylny Sep 2020 #19
Tests everyday for football players and people who need a test can't get one. Autumn Sep 2020 #20
This is not March. former9thward Sep 2020 #22
Not March? No shit. It's Sept. I don't know where you are but where I'm at you have to Autumn Sep 2020 #28
actually that is very bad dsc Sep 2020 #32
My procedure was elective. They had drive in places where you could go get them Autumn Sep 2020 #34
Here the elective procedure people were required to get the tests and were getting them dsc Sep 2020 #36
getting one that has results immediately is still hard in many places dsc Sep 2020 #33
If they need to rapid test daily then there is a problem. LiberalFighter Sep 2020 #21
3 times a week TheFarseer Sep 2020 #40
If each entire team and staff RockCreek Sep 2020 #25
More Covid and Brain Injuries. Ain't America great! jalan48 Sep 2020 #30
As a teacher, here is what incenses me about this dsc Sep 2020 #35
Well we shouldn't. Those kids don't even get paid...and they could end up with permanent Demsrule86 Sep 2020 #42
Latest Discussions»General Discussion»Hold on! We might have Bi...»Reply #38