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hlthe2b

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86. You don't know that any of those jurors found it disrupive. No jury voted to hide
Thu Sep 17, 2020, 04:52 PM
Sep 2020


This, as you previously admitted was a unique situation. Most of us believe disruption implies MALIGN disruption, not that which could be widely construed as helpful. My prior time on MIRT showed these kinds of things happening on occasion. The best resolutions came when MIRT did not act unilaterally, but instead forward it to admins for them to weigh in--which then made it more clear for the future. Likewise, it afforded admins the opportunity to see if they want to address the issue more widely with a change to the wording for juror instructions, to the TOS, a system-wide announcement or simply for MIRT.

That poster may well have been the most sincere, if not naive' of newbies. Intolerance of obviously malign and intentionally disruptive behavior is to me what MIRT was designed for and those kinds of posters are fortunately pretty obvious. But, with those who come with what appears to be BENIGN intent from the valid content they posted that was in no way misleading, harmful, nor in opposition to our joint aims, to determine they are disruptive for overly posting is a very different issue.

There is a Latin phrase: "Caedite eos. Novit enim Dominus qui sunt eius" that loosely translates to "Kill them all and let God sort it out."
When we lump those who post malign content with those who overly post that which is clearly not, I fear this is the DU equivalence.

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I would recommend everyone still on Facebook take a look at The Social Dilemma. Squinch Sep 2020 #1
That's the problem with people: always thinking for themselves. NT mahatmakanejeeves Sep 2020 #2
Boom. cwydro Sep 2020 #11
To me... using fb is no different than watching or supporting fux snooz. MZ is a selfish traitor Thekaspervote Sep 2020 #3
Message auto-removed Name removed Sep 2020 #4
Dude edhopper Sep 2020 #7
why? What is wrong with disseminating a legit voting info site--no matter how often? hlthe2b Sep 2020 #10
He has posted it over 30 times edhopper Sep 2020 #13
It isn't a commercial site. He breaks no rules doing so. hlthe2b Sep 2020 #14
He's Spamming the board, posting this over and over on random threads Rhiannon12866 Sep 2020 #31
So?. Why the hell ar DU/aDUers upset about posting VALID noncommercial site information on voting? hlthe2b Sep 2020 #33
You do know that the site is a creation of Colbert's? He announced it the other night in his niyad Sep 2020 #58
Yes, I posted it along with his monologue which I've been doing since 2017 Rhiannon12866 Sep 2020 #60
he is spamming obamanut2012 Sep 2020 #15
the rule is for commercial spamming. Not a public service legit voting information site hlthe2b Sep 2020 #18
Yes. He's posted this over 30 times on random threads with no context Rhiannon12866 Sep 2020 #32
The rule was for commercial spamming NOT for legitimate information for voting in this all crucial hlthe2b Sep 2020 #35
This is the definition of Spamming the board Rhiannon12866 Sep 2020 #36
YOU should convey your opinion to EarlG. We have never applied this rule to informative, valid hlthe2b Sep 2020 #38
This is not my opinion, it is the rule which MIRT is upholding. n/t Rhiannon12866 Sep 2020 #40
No it is not and apparently... hlthe2b Sep 2020 #41
Which, given you just did the same suggests a bit of problem with your interpretation. hlthe2b Sep 2020 #46
check posting history Kali Sep 2020 #61
GOTV efforts are disruptive? Perhaps those complaining could take the 3 seconds required to ignore hlthe2b Sep 2020 #68
it was an odd situation for MIRT and EarlG has been contacted Kali Sep 2020 #69
As he should. THIS is not within the current guidelines for "spam." It should be HIS determination. hlthe2b Sep 2020 #70
well he can reinstate him if he feels differently Kali Sep 2020 #73
Cyclical pattern with MIRT hlthe2b Sep 2020 #74
what about blog floggers who post the same shit Kali Sep 2020 #75
This poster stopped at 32 posts when he was called on it. I saw no further posts since hlthe2b Sep 2020 #76
nah, 40 posts total only the first 2 were "real" all the rest were spam Kali Sep 2020 #77
Then THREE juries refused to condemn him. Perhaps that SHOULD have told MIRT something hlthe2b Sep 2020 #78
unfortunately the juries couldn't see the 30 repeat posts of the one they were looking at Kali Sep 2020 #81
These weren't 30 threads. They were reply posts within threads. YOU believe it was disruptive. hlthe2b Sep 2020 #82
last reply on this Kali Sep 2020 #85
You don't know that any of those jurors found it disrupive. No jury voted to hide hlthe2b Sep 2020 #86
I believe I was on one of those juries. Blue_true Sep 2020 #108
Excuse me. I did not in any way at all challenge the jury's motives. Quite the opposite as I agree. hlthe2b Sep 2020 #109
I apparently mis-understood your post. I was replying to you. Blue_true Sep 2020 #110
No We were discussing something totally different. Not issues with alerts nor juries, nor decisions hlthe2b Sep 2020 #111
I dont get what's wrong with it? cwydro Sep 2020 #43
Stephen Colbert's effort. In his monologue the other night. niyad Sep 2020 #56
Yeah, I like him. cwydro Sep 2020 #57
Have absolutely no idea. niyad Sep 2020 #59
nothing wrong with it Kali Sep 2020 #62
I guess I've missed that. cwydro Sep 2020 #66
and that is probably why juries are leaving it Kali Sep 2020 #67
I have to admit I rarely click on links. cwydro Sep 2020 #71
I was asked to serve on a jury for this this morning. AngryOldDem Sep 2020 #122
So I should just tell all my friends and family edhopper Sep 2020 #5
Because facebook is the only way to do that? Yeehah Sep 2020 #21
with that many people? edhopper Sep 2020 #25
With nearly 500 friends, family, peer group members - Ms. Toad Sep 2020 #54
It's amazing people were able to do such things Yeehah Sep 2020 #65
Actually, we weren't. Which is why I use facebook. Ms. Toad Sep 2020 #83
In your case, yes.... absolutely. LanternWaste Sep 2020 #99
Oh, a personal attack? Yeehah Sep 2020 #103
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Thanks for the edhopper Sep 2020 #64
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You're kidding yourself. Seriously, watch The Social Dilemma. Squinch Sep 2020 #30
I suppose it is easy for me (never registered, never used, but fully aware of FB & what it "offers) hlthe2b Sep 2020 #9
I've been puzzled by people who complain about what they see on Facebook. For sure, .... LAS14 Sep 2020 #12
So Joe Biden, Hillary Clinton, and Barack Obama have no principles? mnhtnbb Sep 2020 #16
That seems to be the case. Dr. Strange Sep 2020 #93
bless your heart obamanut2012 Sep 2020 #17
I follow this Facebook Page: MineralMan Sep 2020 #19
Agree. I not only get Joe Biden's posts, but EFF, ACLU, SPLC, Occupy Democrats, Liz Warren, ancianita Sep 2020 #47
Well, many of the people who make such a big noise about boycotting FB MineralMan Sep 2020 #53
Exactly treestar Sep 2020 #55
"Nobody is forcing you to use Facebook" GusBob Sep 2020 #102
Good point! MineralMan Sep 2020 #113
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More self-righteous orthodoxy... Aristus Sep 2020 #23
+1000 Sherman A1 Sep 2020 #27
Nobody needs to "justify" the use of a media platform. Codeine Sep 2020 #24
This edhopper Sep 2020 #29
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I have set my privacy settings edhopper Sep 2020 #26
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O, brave new world Codeine Sep 2020 #49
Your boycott call will be totally ineffective. Facebook has 2.7 billion users word wide. totodeinhere Sep 2020 #48
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Exactly. cwydro Sep 2020 #72
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You're referring to DUers as Trump supporters? cwydro Sep 2020 #87
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really? G_j Sep 2020 #121
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Thats what I was thinking... brooklynite Sep 2020 #92
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Why is it MORALLY right? SlogginThroughIt Sep 2020 #100
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I use fb and liken you to what you called me in the title of your thread :) Alea Sep 2020 #63
My reply before I go read the responses to your OP Blecht Sep 2020 #80
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You do kmow who owns Instagram, don't you? Blecht Sep 2020 #96
I see a link to an article. Where is the link to the scientific research? Kaleva Sep 2020 #97
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