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RandySF

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Tue Sep 22, 2020, 03:57 AM Sep 2020

How 'naked ballots' in Pennsylvania could cost Joe Biden the election [View all]

The state Supreme Court in Pennsylvania, a critical battleground state that’s seen as increasingly likely to determine who wins the White House, last week ordered officials to throw out “naked ballots” — mail ballots that arrive without inner “secrecy envelopes.” Pennsylvania uses a two-envelope mail ballot system: A completed ballot goes into a “secrecy envelope” that has no identifying information, and then into a larger mailing envelope that the voter signs.

It’s unclear how many naked ballots there will be, because this is the first year any Pennsylvania voter can vote by mail, and most counties counted them in the June primary without tracking how many there were.

But Philadelphia’s top elections official warned Monday that the court’s ruling “is going to cause electoral chaos,” lead to tens of thousands of votes being thrown out, and put the state at the center of “significant postelection legal controversy, the likes of which we have not seen since Florida in 2000.”

The decision ordering them thrown out was part of a trio of rulings Thursday that, among other things, extended the deadline for voters to send mail ballots back, permitted the use of drop boxes for voters to return them, and removed the Green Party’s presidential ticket from the ballot.




https://www.inquirer.com/politics/election/pennsylvania-naked-ballots-supreme-court-philadelphia-20200921.html

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At least the other aspects of the rulings are good. radius777 Sep 2020 #1
Why do they think Dems are more likely not to use the secret envelope than repugs? brush Sep 2020 #11
The issue is that Democrats are more likely to vote by mail JI7 Sep 2020 #13
The number of Democrats voting by mail is expected to far exceed Republicans. PTWB Sep 2020 #15
If tens of thousands are thrown out, mostly for Biden, God help us. Doodley Sep 2020 #2
Democrats in the state need to educate people, then. octoberlib Sep 2020 #3
Yeah, this could actually cost Biden PA. tman Sep 2020 #4
Public service announcements reminding people to use the "secrecy" envelopes. LisaL Sep 2020 #8
Pa. does a good job of informing voters gab13by13 Sep 2020 #5
The problem is that Democrats are expected to vote by mail at much higher rates tman Sep 2020 #7
Rather surprised by this from them Amishman Sep 2020 #6
So we're assuming that Biden voters are dumber than Trump voters? Klaralven Sep 2020 #9
A lot more democrats plan to vote by mail. LisaL Sep 2020 #10
I don't think it's necessarily a bad thing Eid Ma Clack Shaw Sep 2020 #12
They ought to allow those as its the first time for this envelope system BSdetect Sep 2020 #14
Supreme court of PA already made a decision that naked ballots won't be allowed. LisaL Sep 2020 #19
Yes, buy we can still suggest that point. And what about do-overs for faulty votes? lol BSdetect Sep 2020 #24
Any way for voter to track the ballot? consider_this Sep 2020 #16
There needs to be public outreach on this to educate people DrToast Sep 2020 #17
The Dems need to do a media blitz informing voters to be sure and use the envelope so Autumn Sep 2020 #18
Mask up and show up to vote lame54 Sep 2020 #20
Really not a good idea for PA. LisaL Sep 2020 #21
That sounds like a worse idea... lame54 Sep 2020 #22
Vast majority will be hopefully able to figure out to stick their ballot first into the LisaL Sep 2020 #23
The Instructions RobinA Sep 2020 #25
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