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50. This subject was also discussed

Wed Sep 23, 2020, 01:51 PM

Sep 2020

back on August 29th under "The Electoral College." The link I used down thread was also from The Atlantic.

This is a real possibility. And, I remember, after crying when Hillary did not make it, that it was an awful realization that the EC is the only thing that matters. Millions of hours of effort to GOTV doesn't mean a hill of beans with an EC vote.

That is why, later, several states passed laws that made it illegal for an EC delegate to vote contrary to what the voters had won. But, as we have seen, punishment and consequences for going against that will probably not be forthcoming.

Apparently this threat was seen four years ago. It isn't new. You can bet that the Repubs have a plan for it.

We have to GOTV anyway! We have to win in overwhelming numbers!

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Detailed Republican Plan to Steal Election [View all] angrychair Sep 2020 OP

Kick and recommend for visibility bronxiteforever Sep 2020 #1

We need to vote as early as possible and urge everyone we know flamingdem Sep 2020 #2

this shakes my original plan... consider_this Sep 2020 #85

and now i am going to sound like a conspiracy theorist consider_this Sep 2020 #86

Little Donny needs to be taught what happens to people who lie, cheat, and steal Blue Owl Sep 2020 #3

Sorry. I can't talk you down. Laelth Sep 2020 #4

That is my take as well angrychair Sep 2020 #10

Laelth, have you read the article? If not, please, please do. It's far more than this. hedda_foil Sep 2020 #11

No. I had not read it. Laelth Sep 2020 #15

in Texas, electors are chosen according to party rules at the state conventions. yellowdogintexas Sep 2020 #47

In MI, PA and WI, the Repubs don't have the votes to override a sure veto by the Dem governors. Kaleva Sep 2020 #78

That's good. Laelth Sep 2020 #80

I guess most if not all of those will be going to Trump anyways. Kaleva Sep 2020 #81

Quite the contrary. Laelth Sep 2020 #82

In order to do so, they'd have to overide a sure veto by the Dem governors. Kaleva Sep 2020 #83

And that's a good thing. Laelth Sep 2020 #84

That's been my concern, too Leith Sep 2020 #5

And if it comes to this and donny calls on the SCOTUS, how are they going to vote? KS Toronado Sep 2020 #33

SCOTUS has already said states can do as the please, since STATES run elections. not_the_one Sep 2020 #39

Doesn't that also mean that Trump must wait for states Zing Zing Zingbah Sep 2020 #43

Well, I think that will at least make it clear that the EC needs to go Zing Zing Zingbah Sep 2020 #41

depends on the state. nt yellowdogintexas Sep 2020 #48

K&R Newest Reality Sep 2020 #6

This is a long but exceptionally important article. It's an absolute MUST READ! hedda_foil Sep 2020 #7

It's actually not though a must read. So there's that. BannonsLiver Sep 2020 #13

Atlantic has great articles liberalmediaaddict Sep 2020 #19

I paid $36.99 for a one-year subscription. klook Sep 2020 #65

well, i'll give 'em this- ihas2stinkyfeet Sep 2020 #8

There's no level they won't sink to liberalmediaaddict Sep 2020 #16

yup. ihas2stinkyfeet Sep 2020 #27

In 2000, the Florida legislature was going to do this before SCOTUS stopped the recount Orangepeel Sep 2020 #9

That game can be played both ways. He better be sure he has his corrupt ducks counted properly. bullimiami Sep 2020 #12

Most Americans don't keep up with the news liberalmediaaddict Sep 2020 #14

Too many people take liberal government for granted. Laelth Sep 2020 #20

This was posted earlier. It is such a stretch, read comment #43 Thekaspervote Sep 2020 #17

It appears to be the latest defeatist boogeyman BannonsLiver Sep 2020 #23

Indeed!! Thekaspervote Sep 2020 #25

Please read my response to post #43. n/t Laelth Sep 2020 #24

I will point out that it's never happened before, so why it should happen now PoindexterOglethorpe Sep 2020 #44

Because Republicans used to at least pretend that laws were a thing Bettie Sep 2020 #52

Indeed. It hasn't (not within 100 years, anyway). Laelth Sep 2020 #64

Pay attention! ...nt 2naSalit Sep 2020 #18

Hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm malaise Sep 2020 #21

Thank you! I hope everyone reads the link. It makes it pretty clear how it actually works Thekaspervote Sep 2020 #26

The problem is, even if there is no question as to who wins the popular vote in a state Mr. Ected Sep 2020 #22

the state legislatures wil need to be on board with it jorgevlorgan Sep 2020 #30

I imageine this could be possible if the vote was close jorgevlorgan Sep 2020 #28

the electors are already chosen stopdiggin Sep 2020 #29

All due respect angrychair Sep 2020 #87

Have you ever watched the electors vote? DeminPennswoods Sep 2020 #31

I think the point is angrychair Sep 2020 #42

This article is the best evidence yet against the electoral college. Yavin4 Sep 2020 #32

If This happens and they steal the election FelineOverlord Sep 2020 #34

If the end result is the end of the regime bluecollar2 Sep 2020 #49

Have the strongest blue States then declare the Federal government invalid MarcA Sep 2020 #58

I can only trust that Biden's team of lawyers will have already considered such a scenario and has a onetexan Sep 2020 #35

If they haven't thought of it, this article Sogo Sep 2020 #40

Yes i had read about that at least a couple months ago onetexan Sep 2020 #72

That's not 'stealing an election', that's destroying our democracy in favor of sinkingfeeling Sep 2020 #36

Exactly shanti Sep 2020 #45

If they steal it, it will be by use of raw power in plain sight bucolic_frolic Sep 2020 #37

As stated in the article: Sogo Sep 2020 #38

If he succeeds in fixining the election by appointing electors there will absolutely be civil unrest infullview Sep 2020 #46

1860s? n/t MarcA Sep 2020 #53

Possibly infullview Sep 2020 #79

This subject was also discussed EndlessWire Sep 2020 #50

Disturbing. TommyCelt Sep 2020 #51

You can't have reason and principle with those who only want power. n/t MarcA Sep 2020 #54

To those who scoff at stories about Trump stealing the election LiberalLovinLug Sep 2020 #55

You should also probably allow for some room that you will be wrong BannonsLiver Sep 2020 #59

I still think Biden will win. LiberalLovinLug Sep 2020 #73

I'm leaning toward 1 BannonsLiver Sep 2020 #76

Good. I'm glad you feel so confident LiberalLovinLug Sep 2020 #88

oh, absolutely-- it is 2020 after all LymphocyteLover Sep 2020 #61

Do not ever trust Trump! UCmeNdc Sep 2020 #56

I have a lot of questions about this. Trumpocalypse Sep 2020 #57

EXISTING LAW ABOUT THIS angrygranny Sep 2020 #60

Thanks, and welcome to DU. (nt) klook Sep 2020 #66

Only if the results are close... tinrobot Sep 2020 #62

We WILL get rid of Putin's pet president, but it may require impeaching him again. LaMouffette Sep 2020 #63

My god, you're right. I never thought of this. Mike 03 Sep 2020 #67

This is the only thing that lets me sleep at night! LaMouffette Sep 2020 #90

We're not going to win 2/3 of the Senate no matter how well we do in the election. hedda_foil Sep 2020 #74

But if we win the majority, we can go Mitch McConnell on any legislation . . . LaMouffette Sep 2020 #89

This article is a MUST READ for anyone thinking of voting by mail. My husband and I are BComplex Sep 2020 #68

We damn well better wake up! triron Sep 2020 #69

Do they actually have the right to change the rules in the middle of an election Crunchy Frog Sep 2020 #70

Read the whole article. It will answer your questions more fully than we can. hedda_foil Sep 2020 #71

Halfway through the article and am sickened. I hope everyone here reads this. nt Doremus Sep 2020 #75

How does one convince electors chosen by Democrats to vote for Trump? Kaleva Sep 2020 #77