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PoindexterOglethorpe

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23. Even so, I can't imagine a state legisture certifying

Wed Sep 23, 2020, 09:14 PM

Sep 2020

the Republican slate when the Democrat clearly won the popular vote. Maybe I'm naive, but I just don't see that happening.

And again, its the individual political parties that put up the electors on the slate. So they are all party faithfuls. Which is why "faithless" electors are so mind-boggling.

Plus, isn't it up to the House of Representatives to certify the Electoral College vote? Do you really think that if some Republican state legislature, whose state clearly went for Biden, certifies the Republican slate instead, that the Democratic slate will simply say, "Oh, never mind," and go home? Don't you think they will still meet and send their vote into Washington? And which slate's votes do you really think Nancy Pelosi will accept? Think about it.

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A thought on the "state legislature overriding the popular vote.. [View all] jorgevlorgan Sep 2020 OP

indeed. drray23 Sep 2020 #1

I'm hoping if wrong somebody can point it out jorgevlorgan Sep 2020 #2

Not feasible? It was done in 2016 Boogiemack Sep 2020 #30

Faithless electors were appointed by their parties an still voted against them jorgevlorgan Sep 2020 #33

That's a good question... regnaD kciN Sep 2020 #3

Well florida looked on track to change their law at the time jorgevlorgan Sep 2020 #5

DUers have been passing around this article. I was only able to skim Mike 03 Sep 2020 #4

That's not going to happen. PoindexterOglethorpe Sep 2020 #6

Yeah jorgevlorgan Sep 2020 #8

The problem is that too many here simply do not understand just how the Electoral College works. PoindexterOglethorpe Sep 2020 #9

I remember them telling that to us in hs actually jorgevlorgan Sep 2020 #10

That is how most are chosen... Zeitghost Sep 2020 #16

VA ballot says "Electors for..." lagomorph777 Sep 2020 #54

All ballots say that. PoindexterOglethorpe Sep 2020 #55

legislatures certify which slate gets selected Orangepeel Sep 2020 #20

Even so, I can't imagine a state legisture certifying PoindexterOglethorpe Sep 2020 #23

You keep saying "clearly went for Biden" Hassin Bin Sober Sep 2020 #44

Vote counting isn't goingto happen. PoindexterOglethorpe Sep 2020 #45

In Michigan, the state SOS certifies which slate of electors are chosen Kaleva Sep 2020 #46

I mean sure they can try something tricky, if they want their capitals to burn like Nero's Rome. TeamPooka Sep 2020 #40

It would deprive people of the right to vote treestar Sep 2020 #7

You have a right to vote for most offices. roamer65 Sep 2020 #12

While they have the power to do that, doing so would be entirely at odds jorgevlorgan Sep 2020 #15

In most cases... Zeitghost Sep 2020 #17

That's how I see it. jorgevlorgan Sep 2020 #21

If it's taken to court, the Constitution is the law of the land. roamer65 Sep 2020 #26

Not if legal precedent and stronger areas of the constitution prevail jorgevlorgan Sep 2020 #28

SCOTUS was that stupid in 2000. roamer65 Sep 2020 #31

In 2000 they were about to change the law jorgevlorgan Sep 2020 #32

Hopefully we don't see the scenarios discussed. roamer65 Sep 2020 #34

Me too. And we have to stand firm against the coward nihilists POS that he is jorgevlorgan Sep 2020 #35

Who exactly was about to change the law and appoint electors in 2000? PoindexterOglethorpe Sep 2020 #36

The Republican state legislature and Governor Bush. jorgevlorgan Sep 2020 #38

It may have been stated at some point, but PoindexterOglethorpe Sep 2020 #39

Especially since it would have been likely that the recount would have amounted to a Bush victory jorgevlorgan Sep 2020 #41

Actually the final recount ordered by the Florida Supreme Court Trumpocalypse Sep 2020 #42

oh shnap you're right! jorgevlorgan Sep 2020 #43

To do so, they'd have to get their governor to agree or have enough votes to override a veto. Kaleva Sep 2020 #47

There was a ruling about electors from SCOTUS... cynatnite Sep 2020 #11

Yeah. If it is entirely up to the state as the scotus has made clear jorgevlorgan Sep 2020 #13

I do worry about trump and his minions gumming up the electoral process... cynatnite Sep 2020 #14

I think they will jorgevlorgan Sep 2020 #18

Well, I am feeling better about all this... cynatnite Sep 2020 #19

Yeah I mean he is spending all his campaign cash to overthrow150 years jorgevlorgan Sep 2020 #22

Some sort of link, or supporting evidence, please. PoindexterOglethorpe Sep 2020 #24

Here you go...there are a lot more links but I thought this stated it clearly enough... cynatnite Sep 2020 #25

Which means that "faithless electors" simply aren't an issue. PoindexterOglethorpe Sep 2020 #37

What is the process for determining which slate of electors ... Whiskeytide Sep 2020 #50

The popular vote in that state. PoindexterOglethorpe Sep 2020 #52

What if the popular vote is believed to be corrupted? Say ... Whiskeytide Sep 2020 #53

The state legislatures have complete latitude to do it however they decide. roamer65 Sep 2020 #27

No. They are still restrained by the laws in their state jorgevlorgan Sep 2020 #29

Not just precedent dansolo Sep 2020 #49

But would a hard right 6-3 Supreme Court radius777 Sep 2020 #51

The legislatures can vote to change the law but still need the govenor to either sign or veto Kaleva Sep 2020 #48

All depends on their laws. roamer65 Sep 2020 #56

Bigger question is how will Dump substantiate fraud in his race... roamer65 Sep 2020 #57