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JonLP24

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36. They have messages for both sides

Mon Sep 28, 2020, 09:25 PM

Sep 2020

During Ukraine Russia told the left the problem in Ukraine was nationalist neo Nazis. When it came to the right they blamed it on Jewish Oligarchs. This was reported in the HBO documentary Agents of Chaos. It was also true many on the left did blame the situation in Ukraine on neo nazis.

A lot of reports out there that they do specifically favor Trump. The GOP troll accounts were far more popular. One gained 10,000 followers in a week tweeting on #BasketofDeplorables (which Russian trolls got trending).

When it comes to the left I blame Greenwald, Jimmy Dore, Aaron Mate, etc for Russia denial. However, liberals/progressives hating the Third Way or moderate Democrats predates Russian interference. A lot of them blame Bill Clinton for changing the party into a centrist party. Anyways, that is what I learned from reading DU and left wing circles for about 12 years.

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What's up with Russian apologists? [View all] OneGrassRoot Sep 2020 OP

They are useful idiots. That being said given their actions I question Statistical Sep 2020 #1

I've noticed nihilism definitely is a strong quality... OneGrassRoot Sep 2020 #5

They're dead inside. BannonsLiver Sep 2020 #2

It's sad that I LOL'd... OneGrassRoot Sep 2020 #7

I'm not seeing it on DU ... GeorgeGist Sep 2020 #3

Oh, not here... OneGrassRoot Sep 2020 #6

Those DUers have long been purged from the site. Drunken Irishman Sep 2020 #11

I call the site Just Putin's Radicals. revmclaren Sep 2020 #19

Wow, okay. Good to know. Thanks! n/t OneGrassRoot Sep 2020 #24

Russia went from godless communism to... Thomas Hurt Sep 2020 #4

Most of the people I see doing this... OneGrassRoot Sep 2020 #8

These people have supported Russia and Putin since the Obama days. Drunken Irishman Sep 2020 #9

Ah, the Snowden connection... OneGrassRoot Sep 2020 #14

On the left Democrats? I think there are very few of those supporting Putin/Russian government DonaldsRump Sep 2020 #10

No, not Democrats... OneGrassRoot Sep 2020 #15

"Libertarians": That's a code word to me! DonaldsRump Sep 2020 #18

Recommended. H2O Man Sep 2020 #12

Thank you... OneGrassRoot Sep 2020 #16

Yes, exactly! H2O Man Sep 2020 #21

" are white nationalists, and they view Russia as a more "pure" state " and Putin pushes this notion uponit7771 Sep 2020 #37

Right. H2O Man Sep 2020 #42

Sounds Like Your talking About Krystal Ball. jayfish Sep 2020 #13

Lawd, haven't thought of her in ages... OneGrassRoot Sep 2020 #17

She's one of their saints revmclaren Sep 2020 #20

I think the show Rising is a gateway drug for the "populist" right JonLP24 Sep 2020 #35

This Covers It Pretty Well, Sir The Magistrate Sep 2020 #22

Oh my goodness... OneGrassRoot Sep 2020 #23

The Man Never Grows Old, Sir The Magistrate Sep 2020 #26

"It doesn't make us fall into allegiance with Putin" +1, even among Americans who have a good case uponit7771 Sep 2020 #38

I think skepticism is healthy JonLP24 Sep 2020 #25

Very true... OneGrassRoot Sep 2020 #27

The only individual I know in person who held that line... regnaD kciN Sep 2020 #28

You described it perfectly... OneGrassRoot Sep 2020 #29

Putin is magnet for anti-Democratic Party cranks Azathoth Sep 2020 #30

The Anti-Dem vibe is veryyyyy strong... OneGrassRoot Sep 2020 #32

They have messages for both sides JonLP24 Sep 2020 #36

Thank you... OneGrassRoot Sep 2020 #43

Many of them as bought and paid for also. Their goal is also Republicans JI7 Sep 2020 #31

You mean the actual politicians and pundits? OneGrassRoot Sep 2020 #33

They can't admit to themselves they've been manipulated by Russian propaganda. betsuni Sep 2020 #34

Agree! UCmeNdc Sep 2020 #39

+1, sounds like Sunk Cost Fallacy where people go all in on a position and tie too much to affirming uponit7771 Sep 2020 #40

Well said... OneGrassRoot Sep 2020 #44

Tankies are nothing new on the Left. nt Codeine Sep 2020 #41

Had to look that up! OneGrassRoot Sep 2020 #45

It's taken on a more general meaning now, Codeine Sep 2020 #46