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49. With the WOT, the nature of combat in Afghanistan and Iraq - its fact women are on the front lines

Wed Sep 26, 2012, 08:13 PM

Sep 2012

in essentially combat positions every single day.

Its crazy to believe they are somehow in rear guard positions anymore. They passed that line long ago....

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Selective service only requires males to [View all] Jumping John Sep 2012 OP

Yep. enlightenment Sep 2012 #1

Well, the way to change it, then, frazzled Sep 2012 #3

I called my congressional Rep and was told it is illegal for a female to voluntarily register with Jumping John Sep 2012 #14

That's why actions like that are called JimDandy Sep 2012 #64

Actually a better way is to pass the ERA The empressof all Sep 2012 #52

I don't think it is just about menstruating women in a foxhole Victor_c3 Sep 2012 #33

Sir, I applaud you Risen Demon Sep 2012 #45

With the WOT, the nature of combat in Afghanistan and Iraq - its fact women are on the front lines riderinthestorm Sep 2012 #49

true that Victor_c3 Sep 2012 #61

You rock! I'm old enough to be your mother so I get to give you a motherly hug! riderinthestorm Sep 2012 #66

thank you Victor_c3 Sep 2012 #69

The local Army NG Transportation Co. here recently returned from Afghanistan pinboy3niner Sep 2012 #75

I agree; it should be changed frazzled Sep 2012 #2

That is fine if you want your daughter in a combat zone. However I wouldn't want my daughter in a southernyankeebelle Sep 2012 #4

I doubt very much that parents want their sons in a war zone, either. MineralMan Sep 2012 #9

I agree. Maybe we should stop politicians sending our troops off to wars like Iraq and VN. southernyankeebelle Sep 2012 #24

There's nothing voluntary about registering for the Selective Service. It is the law for males. yardwork Sep 2012 #16

I don't care if it is the law. My son did that when he finished school. I very well know what is southernyankeebelle Sep 2012 #23

Registering for the Selective Service does not carry a requirement of serving in combat. yardwork Sep 2012 #32

I know that. My son registerd in 1990. southernyankeebelle Sep 2012 #39

And you think people want their sons in a combat zone?? NYC Liberal Sep 2012 #18

no, I sure don't southernyankeebelle Sep 2012 #21

Men are getting raped too. So why should women be the only ones "protected"? riderinthestorm Sep 2012 #44

Good you send your 2 daughters and I will keep my only daughter at home. This is a volunteer southernyankeebelle Sep 2012 #54

I already stipulated I DON'T want my daughters joining. But SS is discriminatory riderinthestorm Sep 2012 #57

I can't fight with you on that. But she volunteered to go in. That is the difference. That is all southernyankeebelle Sep 2012 #73

Who volunteered to go in? Not my daughters, nor obviously did yours. What are you talking about? riderinthestorm Sep 2012 #76

Women and Men VOLUNTEER to be in the military. That is up to the individual. PERIOD. I believe southernyankeebelle Sep 2012 #83

This is about being forced to register for the Selective Service. Potential draft bait riderinthestorm Sep 2012 #85

Women have total rights. No I don't believe women should be forced to register. Nor do I think boy southernyankeebelle Sep 2012 #86

Your post #23 seems to be saying you were okay with your son registering but not your daughter riderinthestorm Sep 2012 #90

I don't want my daughter going into the military, period. There are other ways she should able to southernyankeebelle Sep 2012 #94

Not that we would ever ask you to show the same concern for men as you do for women... Zalatix Sep 2012 #62

I don't believe anyone should be forced to sign up nor forced to serve. Believe me I didn't want southernyankeebelle Sep 2012 #72

Rape is disgusting, hurtful and emotionally devastating for both males and females. Jennicut Sep 2012 #88

So you would rather just force MEN to go die in combat? Really? Now that is downright sexist. Zalatix Sep 2012 #58

Well I believe in being honest. I think there are many people who would feel that way. Who are you southernyankeebelle Sep 2012 #71

It should be removed completely. nt Comrade_McKenzie Sep 2012 #6

It's discriminatory. What do you expect, though? Comrade_McKenzie Sep 2012 #5

Chivalry? To protect our womenfolk? (nt) Nye Bevan Sep 2012 #7

Wait, what? Lucy Goosey Sep 2012 #8

Yes. MadrasT Sep 2012 #11

That seems like an invasion of privacy or something. Lucy Goosey Sep 2012 #12

Yup. There is a reason nobody hates Canadians! Victor_c3 Sep 2012 #68

A "valid" explanation? No. MadrasT Sep 2012 #10

Yes, only males are subject to being drafted under US law ProgressiveProfessor Sep 2012 #13

I agree. All citizens should have to register if males have to do so. yardwork Sep 2012 #15

Not until the ERA is passed. n/t pnwmom Sep 2012 #29

That's a fair deal. I agree. yardwork Sep 2012 #31

NO citizens should have to register. Zalatix Sep 2012 #59

I'm a native-born male US citizen, and I never had to register for the draft slackmaster Sep 2012 #65

Yeah. Women are inferior and don't belong in combat situations. HopeHoops Sep 2012 #17

This message was self-deleted by its author former-republican Sep 2012 #22

I would guess most *people* aren't capable of it 4th law of robotics Sep 2012 #25

My three daughters are 17, 19, and 21 and all 2nd degree black belts. Read on... HopeHoops Sep 2012 #30

Personal anecdotes don't mean much 4th law of robotics Sep 2012 #34

She was on the street. And, as an 18 year old boy, I knew plenty of women that age. HopeHoops Sep 2012 #36

If his MOS starts with 11 former-republican Sep 2012 #40

Sorry, "MOS"? HopeHoops Sep 2012 #41

MOS = Military Occupational Specialty pinboy3niner Sep 2012 #42

sorry former-republican Sep 2012 #43

Thank you. HopeHoops Sep 2012 #84

There's really no valid explanation, no. NYC Liberal Sep 2012 #19

Yes, there is. pnwmom Sep 2012 #28

OK yes but there's still no valid reason to exclude women, ERA or not. NYC Liberal Sep 2012 #78

Oh really? You don't think women would STRONGLY object to being included in the draft pnwmom Sep 2012 #79

STRONGLY object or not, there is no valid reason. NYC Liberal Sep 2012 #82

I agree. HappyMe Sep 2012 #92

Yes, there is a valid reason. Either women are considered a special class, pnwmom Sep 2012 #101

This is an interesting contention. lumberjack_jeff Sep 2012 #96

I served. I think all women should have to register. Nt DevonRex Sep 2012 #20

I think the Equal Rights Amendment should be passed first. n/t pnwmom Sep 2012 #27

Sounds like a really GRAND idea for a deal DevonRex Sep 2012 #38

Their whole excuse for not passing it in the first place was the draft -- pnwmom Sep 2012 #47

Agreed. This is a valid point nt riderinthestorm Sep 2012 #50

Yes. The Equal Rights Amendment didn't pass. And until it does, pnwmom Sep 2012 #26

Er. . . what rights are women 4th law of robotics Sep 2012 #35

The SCOTUS is still pointing to the lack of an ERA in their decisions. pnwmom Sep 2012 #48

So the only thing you could find 4th law of robotics Sep 2012 #89

"The constitution does not protect against sex discrimination" lumberjack_jeff Sep 2012 #97

One step in the equal rights fight HappyMe Sep 2012 #93

Yes. It is a relic of the male only military. yellowcanine Sep 2012 #37

Women still don't have the same rights as men at the federal level, so they don't have the same... slackmaster Sep 2012 #46

Exactly. Until the ERA is passed, pnwmom Sep 2012 #53

Did you know that the Republican Party platform supported the ERA from 1940 until 1976? slackmaster Sep 2012 #60

No, I didn't. That's interesting, thanks! n/t pnwmom Sep 2012 #70

Can you give some examples of RIGHTS that are unequal at the federal level. n/t lumberjack_jeff Sep 2012 #98

There is no federal law prohibiting discrimination against women in employment slackmaster Sep 2012 #100

It's a backdoor draft and disgusting. NO ONE should have to sign up to get education money! raw raina Sep 2012 #51

There has been no draft since 1973. Selective Service does not equal a backdoor draft. Selatius Sep 2012 #55

Selective Service = Sword of Damocles. And it should be abolished, not expanded to women. Zalatix Sep 2012 #63

Conscription would still be possible through the existing militia statutes slackmaster Sep 2012 #67

We should take this further... Alduin Sep 2012 #56

Plus, the military isn't interested in a draft. progressoid Sep 2012 #91

Yes, there is. nt Honeycombe8 Sep 2012 #74

This needs to change..... Swede Atlanta Sep 2012 #77

In a perfect world (country), six months of training/service after high school. ReasonableToo Sep 2012 #80

The Selective Service is stupid anyway davidn3600 Sep 2012 #81

In WWII American territory WAS attacked...they still needed a draft and weirdly HereSince1628 Sep 2012 #95

Two years of mandatory service in the Peace Corps, for everyone wtmusic Sep 2012 #87

Americans love their sexism. lumberjack_jeff Sep 2012 #99

One word: ERA. nt bemildred Sep 2012 #102