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DetlefK

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78. We can go even lower in plasma-temperature:

Thu Sep 27, 2012, 05:03 AM

Sep 2012

German scientists invented a way to disinfect skin and surgical tools with plasma: It's a box, open at one side. You stick your hands in and every bacteria on the surface of your skin gets killed within seconds.

http://www.gizmag.com/plasma-disinfectant-anti-bacteria/13464/

But this still leaves the two main questions unanswered:
How do you store/transport plasma?
How do you get energy out of it?

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