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267. Most "hunters" today are "shooters"

Thu Sep 27, 2012, 10:22 AM

Sep 2012

--ie. woodland terrorists.

They just like to go around with rifles shootin' at things to get their fix of Predator/Prey. Better to play video games. This "sport" activity has no place in modern society--it's a relic from the past. But with leaders like Dirty Dick Cheney--I'm sure it feeds the "Sport" mentality. Target shooting is one thing--I'm talking about killing animals for fun. Killing animals for fun is barbaric. Killing animals for fun, in my book, is a criminal act.

People who hunt for food are scarce. Most people who do not hunt but own guns are all about "protection"--such a joke unless you're a trained professional (small percentage of the population).

So, you know my position. I have nothing more to say. You got your POV. I got mine.

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Ryan outfits 10 yr old daughter with deer-hunting gear (gave her rifle as gift at age 9) [View all] Liberal_in_LA Sep 2012 OP

what an asswipe!!! gopiscrap Sep 2012 #1

Do they hunt on---GASP!---government land??? WinkyDink Sep 2012 #2

By the time Walker is through it will all be privatized undeterred Sep 2012 #73

Can teaching children how to kill & desensitizing them to it be considered child abuse? baldguy Sep 2012 #3

Um no Samjm Sep 2012 #6

Should he take her to a meat packing facility also? Arctic Dave Sep 2012 #13

If she eats commercial meat, sure, though I don't think a factory would let her. uppityperson Sep 2012 #83

How about kids who grow up on farms? n/t PavePusher Sep 2012 #121

Absolutely. Codeine Sep 2012 #141

Well, my fifth grade class in the 1950s MineralMan Sep 2012 #159

"one bad morning" I think I just threw up in mouth. heartless. n/t progressivebydesign Sep 2012 #167

What? Animals don't die? You don't believe in the cycle of life? PavePusher Sep 2012 #185

Yeah. Science sucks. joeglow3 Sep 2012 #190

Did you think that thought out before you spewed it? Missycim Sep 2012 #14

My stepdad took me hunting when I was 7. Odin2005 Sep 2012 #43

I think you're wrong. Brickbat Sep 2012 #69

You dodn't grow up on a farm, did you? n/t PavePusher Sep 2012 #120

Some little girls are struck with awe over the beauty of deer ailsagirl Sep 2012 #131

If you are "blast(ing) a creature to smithereens" You are doing it wrong..... PavePusher Sep 2012 #201

It's important to pass on facts like, don't pop the bladder when gutting an animal snooper2 Sep 2012 #160

hmmm no, you live in a city, don't you? nadinbrzezinski Sep 2012 #315

hmmmm, most people do. Or didn't you know that? baldguy Sep 2012 #335

Yup, but some of us urban residents nadinbrzezinski Sep 2012 #337

Tolerance is a two-way street. baldguy Sep 2012 #338

You are correct when it comes to nut jobs nadinbrzezinski Sep 2012 #339

Yet oddly, the "gun nuts" (yes, I know how you are applying the term)... PavePusher Sep 2012 #347

No, they just want to make it easier to murder innocent people. baldguy Sep 2012 #372

And yet murder rates are going down... PavePusher Sep 2012 #384

Keep posting those RW talking points. baldguy Sep 2012 #385

The FBI's UCR is a RW talking point? glacierbay Sep 2012 #391

Feel free to post the stats that show murder rates trending upwards. We'll... wait. n/t PavePusher Sep 2012 #396

This message was self-deleted by its author d_r Sep 2012 #402

No Mojorabbit Sep 2012 #365

So? Samjm Sep 2012 #4

To allow your 7-year-old daughter to kill an animal is also a crime in my eyes. n/t RebelOne Sep 2012 #8

Why? uppityperson Sep 2012 #84

Do you harvet your meat yourself? Or collect it on plastic trays, neatly wrapped? n/t PavePusher Sep 2012 #122

Why? Is allowing her to eat meat also a crime? Codeine Sep 2012 #142

Better watch where you tread. There are DUers who have done the same LynneSin Sep 2012 #151

Then you need your eyes fixed. (nt) eqfan592 Sep 2012 #198

Fortunately it is not a crime in the eyes of the law 4th law of robotics Sep 2012 #277

And... I don't hunt nadinbrzezinski Sep 2012 #318

No answer? What a surprise... n/t PavePusher Sep 2012 #348

Never understood the appeal of KILLING a helpless animal for fun. progressivebydesign Sep 2012 #166

But paying some immigrant to do it at the slaughterhouse is just fine? CBGLuthier Sep 2012 #173

I've got to ask. hamsterjill Sep 2012 #285

Sorry! Samjm Oct 2012 #408

I hate hunting, and to indoctrinate a 10-year-child RebelOne Sep 2012 #5

? Samjm Sep 2012 #9

No, I do not eat meat. I am a vegetarian. n/t RebelOne Sep 2012 #10

So don't teach your kids to hunt then Missycim Sep 2012 #15

Do you wear leather shoes? (nt) Nye Bevan Sep 2012 #30

I would really like an answer to this... Lightbulb_on Sep 2012 #102

I maybe only leather from cows that died of natural causes. Bucky Sep 2012 #251

Well good for you glacierbay Sep 2012 #37

How do you justify killing all of those poor, defenseless plants that never harmed you, or anyone.. Ghost in the Machine Sep 2012 #111

lots of animals d_r Sep 2012 #237

Oh, I know all about that! Ghost in the Machine Sep 2012 #401

Your Farm is Cute snooper2 Sep 2012 #162

So what? glacierbay Sep 2012 #31

UNless, of course he plans on having his daughter wear that camo when hunting deer during gun season TheMightyFavog Sep 2012 #117

Don't molly coddle those kids. Orange hunting jackets make your kids soft and weak. Bucky Sep 2012 #252

+1000 nt Doremus Sep 2012 #38

+1000 MotherPetrie Sep 2012 #42

Name the crime. Brickbat Sep 2012 #70

Willful disregard for delicate sensibilties 4th law of robotics Sep 2012 #278

I have a question about the "gun culture," for lack of a better way to phrase it... OneGrassRoot Sep 2012 #7

Nothing wrong with it if it is done safely. ManiacJoe Sep 2012 #19

It's largely my ignorance, I suppose... OneGrassRoot Sep 2012 #23

Much probably depends on the method of pose. PavePusher Sep 2012 #124

I avoid gun threads because I have ZERO desire to debate guns (edited) OneGrassRoot Sep 2012 #134

I think it is appalling and you are right to be concerned. renie408 Sep 2012 #137

GREAT question! OneGrassRoot Sep 2012 #138

I live in South Carolina. We INVENTED rednecks and I haven't seen any class pictures renie408 Sep 2012 #143

Out of curiosity, did she do any competition shooting? eqfan592 Sep 2012 #200

No, no competitions at all. OneGrassRoot Sep 2012 #203

Olympics (they don't use GLOCKs, but much more expensive/specialized guns), IPSC, USPSA, IDPA... PavePusher Sep 2012 #224

"Handguns have one purpose...to kill people. Period." PavePusher Sep 2012 #177

huh? Hukdonfonix Sep 2012 #305

"This young lady happens to be my niece, so it bothers me. A lot." PavePusher Sep 2012 #176

1. Yes, I do know the facts behind my assertions. OneGrassRoot Sep 2012 #187

"Safely" is not the issue here Canuckistanian Sep 2012 #101

Plenty of kids shoot in compitition. eqfan592 Sep 2012 #202

You do know that GLOCK pistols are used in many flavors of competitive shooting, right? PavePusher Sep 2012 #123

It bothers me that it was a Glock. A nice all American 1911a1 would have been nicer. oneshooter Sep 2012 #341

ok sweetapogee Sep 2012 #273

Thanks, sweetapogee, but if you'll read the comments above... OneGrassRoot Sep 2012 #274

If sweetapogee Sep 2012 #282

I respect your opinion. OneGrassRoot Sep 2012 #284

I'm sure there are more teens pictured posing by cars or swimming pools 4th law of robotics Sep 2012 #280

what a man! spanone Sep 2012 #11

He's an asshole for sure but I don't fault him for this tularetom Sep 2012 #12

Same here DollarBillHines Sep 2012 #17

Yep. I could argue that a little girl doesn't need that much gear to hunt. Barack_America Sep 2012 #28

This message was self-deleted by its author AnotherMcIntosh Sep 2012 #94

I actually give him credit for taking his daughter. wickerwoman Sep 2012 #186

i am not a hunter, but this isnt a negative for ryan scheming daemons Sep 2012 #16

Who fucking cares? Marinedem Sep 2012 #18

Must be a slow news day in Ohio. ManiacJoe Sep 2012 #20

You don't get the gun until age 11 in my family - lynne Sep 2012 #21

I've never hunted, but this certainly won't hurt him in rural Ohio WI_DEM Sep 2012 #22

He's just pandering. MrSlayer Sep 2012 #24

Hunting has little to do with economic status. PavePusher Sep 2012 #125

Yeah, so what? obxhead Sep 2012 #25

Camouflage for hunting deer? How about some hunter orange? hedgehog Sep 2012 #26

Hey guess what, I too, hunt, fish shoot for sport and drive a pickup truck... Earth_First Sep 2012 #27

I don't hunt, fish, shoot for sport or any other reason ... etherealtruth Sep 2012 #29

I know nothing about hunting but certainly support the right of people to hunt if they want to. Nye Bevan Sep 2012 #32

Families who embrace hunting.......... Amaril Sep 2012 #154

Advice. Don't bring dead Bambi home to your daughters HockeyMom Sep 2012 #33

Your daughters had a problem with it. My daughter didn't. Brickbat Sep 2012 #71

Neither did mine glacierbay Sep 2012 #74

Your squeemishness is not the benchmark. n/t PavePusher Sep 2012 #126

When I was a child there were several occasions Codeine Sep 2012 #144

I am not sure why people think it is a "crime" or "abuse"... NCTraveler Sep 2012 #266

Not a luxury I had growing up. kiva Sep 2012 #265

This is one of the stupidest reasons to attack Ryan glacierbay Sep 2012 #34

Speak for yourself. MotherPetrie Sep 2012 #47

I'm speaking with the majority of people posting on this thread. glacierbay Sep 2012 #55

He can speak for me, too. renie408 Sep 2012 #148

And we wonder why we're losing the white working class vote. ForgoTheConsequence Sep 2012 #35

Wasn't aware we're losing the white working class vote. Doremus Sep 2012 #40

You don't have access to Google? ForgoTheConsequence Sep 2012 #46

You forgot to paste in the rest of it. We're far from losing the white middle-class. Doremus Sep 2012 #63

Squabble about the numbers, but the point still stands joeglow3 Sep 2012 #192

Actually most folks don't do that nadinbrzezinski Sep 2012 #323

Bravo, sir/m'am... Earth_First Sep 2012 #41

Well said! (nt) eqfan592 Sep 2012 #204

This message was self-deleted by its author Raine Sep 2012 #36

ICAM. MotherPetrie Sep 2012 #44

Well good for you glacierbay Sep 2012 #51

Congrats. ForgoTheConsequence Sep 2012 #54

I gave my 5 year old daughter a fishing pole d_r Sep 2012 #238

LOL! Yet they both eat meat but you're right - a commercial slaughter house isn't sport - lynne Sep 2012 #64

But neither President Obama nor the First Lady are vegetarian or vegan, Codeine Sep 2012 #145

This message was self-deleted by its author AnotherMcIntosh Sep 2012 #242

Oh great, another Ryan thread that degenerates into bashing hunters. Odin2005 Sep 2012 #39

Why...you bloodlusting GOP super PAC bundling Republican sympathizer, you! Earth_First Sep 2012 #45

Just in time for grouse season! Brickbat Sep 2012 #72

My father was a gun nut (and still is) Victor_c3 Sep 2012 #48

the gun issue is the only republican belief I still hold on to Berserker Sep 2012 #65

I stand corrected on that point n/t Victor_c3 Sep 2012 #86

Guns aren't a 'Republican issue'. There are 88 guns in this country for every 100 renie408 Sep 2012 #149

Well said. eqfan592 Sep 2012 #207

Oh, DU, please let me say it. Please let me say it. Please, please, please! valerief Sep 2012 #49

Oh alright. Go ahead. Iggo Sep 2012 #52

No, if I say it, my post will just get hidden. I have one hidden post valerief Sep 2012 #62

Oh, that is it! Iggo Sep 2012 #50

Okay, I grew up on a farm and learned to hunt at a very young age. Probably younger than 10. dballance Sep 2012 #53

So? n/t Bolo Boffin Sep 2012 #56

All the hunting advocates in this thread Doremus Sep 2012 #57

Good job. ForgoTheConsequence Sep 2012 #58

Hey thanks. Doremus Sep 2012 #66

Perhaps if you produce something worthy of a serious retort... eqfan592 Sep 2012 #208

Animals eat Berserker Sep 2012 #60

Uh huh. Doremus Sep 2012 #68

So what? glacierbay Sep 2012 #61

Animals are "given" plenty of advantages. Their main disadvantage is that they're not human. Brickbat Sep 2012 #75

Deer overpopulation is a big problem nadine_mn Sep 2012 #232

Attitudes like yours is why working class white people vote R. Odin2005 Sep 2012 #95

Absolutely correct glacierbay Sep 2012 #98

Also, it's extremely pantronizing to remaining traditional societies that... Odin2005 Sep 2012 #100

When I was growing up in MO. glacierbay Sep 2012 #103

City people who think of Bambi when they hear the word "deer". Odin2005 Sep 2012 #114

To quote my Democratic, Union-Member, Veteran Uncle... Jeff In Milwaukee Sep 2012 #158

This message was self-deleted by its author AnotherMcIntosh Sep 2012 #243

We got on the wrong side in 1972 when the upper-middle class too over the party. Odin2005 Sep 2012 #260

I think about canned hunts when I hear the word deer. LanternWaste Sep 2012 #161

Most hunters despise canned hunts. Odin2005 Sep 2012 #259

ALL "real" hunters despise canned hunts. Jeff In Milwaukee Sep 2012 #263

Oh yes, it's the ever-integral hunting faction that will determine our fate. Doremus Sep 2012 #105

And just keep bashing millions of Dem hunters that do vote. glacierbay Sep 2012 #106

Your concern is duly noted. Doremus Sep 2012 #116

As is your arrogance. joeglow3 Sep 2012 #196

Here here! eqfan592 Sep 2012 #209

Make sure you don't use any of the medical advancements derived from animal research... Lightbulb_on Sep 2012 #104

Or plastic bags. Or car and bike tires. Or glue. Or fabric softener. cherokeeprogressive Sep 2012 #112

So glad to know you can divine the thoughts, intents, emotions and wants of all hunters. PavePusher Sep 2012 #127

No one has issues with your opinion. Just respect others LynneSin Sep 2012 #153

You have to change your opinion... snooper2 Sep 2012 #163

Yeah. Fuck science. joeglow3 Sep 2012 #193

So what do you tell nadinbrzezinski Sep 2012 #322

What would I tell them? Doremus Sep 2012 #357

Alas we are omnivores nadinbrzezinski Sep 2012 #358

Some, as in under 5% of calories Doremus Sep 2012 #368

And of course my back country denizens do not plant gardens nadinbrzezinski Sep 2012 #369

"China Study (and other traditional diets)..." Doremus Sep 2012 #371

It followed people eating traditional diets nadinbrzezinski Sep 2012 #373

Those who argue in circles are particularly fun. Doremus Sep 2012 #375

Yup, why this article has a mention of ANIMAL PROTEIN nadinbrzezinski Sep 2012 #379

If they eat what they hunt, no harm, no foul Warpy Sep 2012 #59

OFFS, I am so pissed that i have to do this but mcctatas Sep 2012 #67

Oh lord, another dick cheney Hoyt Sep 2012 #76

Good for him and good for her, but I'm hoping the "women's camo" isn't some kind of stupid pink- Brickbat Sep 2012 #77

It's entirely possible his daughter likes pink. PavePusher Sep 2012 #128

utterly fucking SICK Skittles Sep 2012 #78

Why? glacierbay Sep 2012 #81

you know what? I am NOT even going to waste my time on you Skittles Sep 2012 #82

why? glacierbay Sep 2012 #87

I guess my stepdad was an evil sickom then. Odin2005 Sep 2012 #96

Why is it sick? PavePusher Sep 2012 #129

But why? Codeine Sep 2012 #146

We're not going to get a rational response, are we? n/t PavePusher Sep 2012 #225

Why? People hunt in the back country nadinbrzezinski Sep 2012 #324

Romney and Ryan have no regard for human life - or any life for that matter. Initech Sep 2012 #79

The man is sick ann--- Sep 2012 #80

Why is it child abuse? glacierbay Sep 2012 #85

ohhh noes!!1 frylock Sep 2012 #88

I have lots of things I can criticize Ryan on Jennicut Sep 2012 #89

This is very normal glacierbay Sep 2012 #91

How is teaching a child ann--- Sep 2012 #352

It's very normal for many parts of the country glacierbay Sep 2012 #354

So what you are saying is that the morality of hunting is dependent... PavePusher Sep 2012 #386

God-Guns-Gays nt aaaaaa5a Sep 2012 #90

This message was self-deleted by its author AnotherMcIntosh Sep 2012 #92

maybe he hunts on private land? mcctatas Sep 2012 #99

Maybe he already has some? PavePusher Sep 2012 #130

This message was self-deleted by its author AnotherMcIntosh Sep 2012 #156

The man has been a hunter for a long time and, IIRC, in the previous thread trying to bash him.... PavePusher Sep 2012 #191

This message was self-deleted by its author AnotherMcIntosh Sep 2012 #206

Come on, creative editing, much? PavePusher Sep 2012 #223

This message was self-deleted by its author AnotherMcIntosh Sep 2012 #240

What I said: PavePusher Sep 2012 #253

So you clicked the link he posted... Dr Hobbitstein Sep 2012 #343

Heh, I forgot to even check that when I was at home. PavePusher Sep 2012 #349

This message was self-deleted by its author AnotherMcIntosh Sep 2012 #367

Wow, so I was half right... (hence the IIRC in my original response...) PavePusher Sep 2012 #388

I went deer hunting with my dad when I was 10.... chillfactor Sep 2012 #93

Hey, Liza... How does it feel to be used by your dad for a photo op? Politicub Sep 2012 #97

Huh, I don't think I've ever seen a picture of his daughter. I just don't care. n/t PavePusher Sep 2012 #389

Ryan = Pander Bear Botany Sep 2012 #107

Good for him. Politics have nothing to do with spending some quality time petronius Sep 2012 #108

How can people hunt anymore? StarryNite Sep 2012 #109

So much silly hyperbolic outrage in this thread; it's embarrassing to read. (nt) Posteritatis Sep 2012 #110

OK, what's the problem here? MrScorpio Sep 2012 #113

Paul Ryan is a dick bag for many reasons IVoteDFL Sep 2012 #115

People here are really upset by this? SpartanDem Sep 2012 #118

Some are. eqfan592 Sep 2012 #210

Gee daddy why don't ya buy her B Calm Sep 2012 #119

Maybe she already has one. PavePusher Sep 2012 #132

I think she should learn to gut the deer! B Calm Sep 2012 #168

This message was self-deleted by its author AnotherMcIntosh Sep 2012 #246

I never alerted it! But that said B Calm Sep 2012 #270

Give It A Rest..... (nt) Paladin Sep 2012 #169

Good for him former-republican Sep 2012 #133

Oscar Wilde on the hunting crowd... CorBlimeyGuvnor Sep 2012 #135

more accurately, Oscar Wilde on the the English country gentleman sl8 Sep 2012 #139

Deer are "uneatable"? PavePusher Sep 2012 #390

Hunting freaks me the fuck out. renie408 Sep 2012 #136

I got a rifle for Christmas when I was nine. Spider Jerusalem Sep 2012 #140

I don't get the outrage over hunting gollygee Sep 2012 #147

I agree. It isn't for me, but with the deer population not exactly in trouble renie408 Sep 2012 #150

Scratch a hunter and you'll find a conservationist... Jeff In Milwaukee Sep 2012 #157

This message was self-deleted by its author AnotherMcIntosh Sep 2012 #244

Tnose are not hunters. Those are douche bags. Jeff In Milwaukee Sep 2012 #248

This message was self-deleted by its author TheMightyFavog Sep 2012 #345

Really? This is the best we got? LynneSin Sep 2012 #152

So? My dad used us as bird dogs when he hunted WolverineDG Sep 2012 #155

ok ok folks Liberal_in_LA Sep 2012 #164

'here sweetie, take this gun and go kill a beautiful living creature for fun' progressivebydesign Sep 2012 #165

Your outrage is duly noted glacierbay Sep 2012 #175

How about people who make broad-brush stereotypes/accusations? PavePusher Sep 2012 #194

Yes, better her meat should be killed invisibly, by illegal immigrants Codeine Sep 2012 #313

Big deal. There are real things to complain about Ryan. Matariki Sep 2012 #170

I do not give a shit how he raises his child. CBGLuthier Sep 2012 #171

Did he give her a 270 for Christmas? Rex Sep 2012 #172

Well, if you ignore the available evidence, yeah, sure, whatever... PavePusher Sep 2012 #195

And your point was what exactly? Rex Sep 2012 #370

Sport Hunting Is On The Decline In The U.S. Paladin Sep 2012 #174

If you have to keep company with --anybody-- while hunting... ret5hd Sep 2012 #178

And If That's An Example Of Your Interpretive Skills...... Paladin Sep 2012 #184

And if that's an example of your interpersonal skills... ret5hd Sep 2012 #256

Hmmmm, I heard something last weekend that said the number of people participating... PavePusher Sep 2012 #197

A simple google search underscores that there is a great deal of disagreement on the actual number.. eqfan592 Sep 2012 #213

Take It Up With U.S. Fish & Wildlife Paladin Sep 2012 #219

Actually, you're a bit off. eqfan592 Sep 2012 #211

Care To Tell Us Where That Definition Came From? Paladin Sep 2012 #220

Urban dictionary, top ranked result. eqfan592 Sep 2012 #281

What is picking up is sports photography nadinbrzezinski Sep 2012 #325

"Don't taze me, Bro." - Bambi Berlum Sep 2012 #179

Where is DCF? Laurajr Sep 2012 #180

You would love my sons Sporting Clays team then. Mec9000 Sep 2012 #188

I had guns, knives and chain-saws by the time I was 10. Drove tractors occasionally too. PavePusher Sep 2012 #199

Where are your google skills? glacierbay Sep 2012 #268

I take it you have not bothered to research gun laws? hack89 Sep 2012 #272

Holy crap! I should be dead then. Codeine Sep 2012 #316

I guess Paul Ryan forgot about Dick Cheney Laurajr Sep 2012 #181

Paul Ryan says he owns the Boone and Crocket Whitetail Archery record...nt Evasporque Sep 2012 #182

Not an issue IMO... k2qb3 Sep 2012 #183

I was 5 or 6 the first time I shot a gun. bamacrat Sep 2012 #189

Big deal. geardaddy Sep 2012 #205

"You must die, that I may live" marions ghost Sep 2012 #212

Can you answer question #1 here: PavePusher Sep 2012 #228

Did you read what I said? marions ghost Sep 2012 #241

You might have an argument.... if you had some evidence and numbers to support your assertions. PavePusher Sep 2012 #254

I'm sure you have all the numbers you need marions ghost Sep 2012 #257

Wow, all hunters are Dick Cheney? Really? PavePusher Sep 2012 #258

Most "hunters" today are "shooters" marions ghost Sep 2012 #267

I'm calling bullshit glacierbay Sep 2012 #269

I live among them in a rural area marions ghost Sep 2012 #287

And your evidence to back up your assertions/accusations is...???? PavePusher Sep 2012 #271

Relax marions ghost Sep 2012 #289

Nice dodge. PavePusher Sep 2012 #310

So you're saying my son should sit inside and play video games this weekend instead of going out on Brickbat Sep 2012 #279

Not at all marions ghost Sep 2012 #290

It's possible to do both, you know. To respect nature while hunting. Brickbat Sep 2012 #291

Y'know the olden days marions ghost Sep 2012 #292

My family is not poor. We eat what we kill. Are we a part of your romantic fantasy piggy practice? Brickbat Sep 2012 #294

Don't get me to accuse you marions ghost Sep 2012 #295

"just a romantic fantasy now"... no, an actual reality for some still. PavePusher Sep 2012 #312

see post no 292 marions ghost Sep 2012 #293

You have no clue what real hunters are about glacierbay Sep 2012 #296

I've been around hunters a lot marions ghost Sep 2012 #301

Oh, so only rich people hunt, or hunted in the past..... PavePusher Sep 2012 #311

Rich (or well off) people are the only ones who hunt marions ghost Sep 2012 #321

I'm not upset.... PavePusher Sep 2012 #346

People who go around saying those who differ from them are "wrong" marions ghost Sep 2012 #353

Not an issue from my point of view. I was raised for my fisrt 7 years in Wyoming skip fox Sep 2012 #214

This message was self-deleted by its author AnotherMcIntosh Sep 2012 #245

I grew up in southwestern Wyoming and I can attest to all this. Codeine Sep 2012 #317

My father was too much of a bigot against women to that Aerows Sep 2012 #215

Canned hunts, too. LanternWaste Sep 2012 #217

Yeah Aerows Sep 2012 #218

I'm afraid I don't know the relevant ethical difference between hunting and canned hunting... LanternWaste Sep 2012 #221

they'll spend thousands on a 'hunt' for a couple pounds of meat Sunlei Sep 2012 #216

I don't understand gun and hunting culture. Alduin Sep 2012 #222

1. So, is it more ethical to get one's meat from plastic trays..... PavePusher Sep 2012 #226

I get my meat from the co-op Alduin Sep 2012 #230

1. So hunting isn't humane? PavePusher Sep 2012 #231

Why are the two options subsistence hunting vs. killing for "sport"? Many people hunt for a variety Brickbat Sep 2012 #261

I take that he never let her watch Bambi. Lint Head Sep 2012 #227

Relevance?? PavePusher Sep 2012 #229

It's called a joke. Deer hunters kill deer. Bambi is a Disney character loved by 9 year olds. Lint Head Sep 2012 #234

I'm guessing this guy took up hunting Oregonian Sep 2012 #233

Well, you guessed wrong. PavePusher Sep 2012 #235

Are you a family friend? Oregonian Sep 2012 #236

Sorry, I just see a lot of potential to lose political ground over a manufactured concern. PavePusher Sep 2012 #239

John Kerry Is A Long-Time Hunter, As Well. Paladin Sep 2012 #247

After a year of going out in the woods with hunters, she's finally earned some camoflage Bucky Sep 2012 #249

Meat is murder! Bucky Sep 2012 #250

Not a big deal kevinmc Sep 2012 #255

There's a whole lot of manufactured outrage HappyMe Sep 2012 #262

She's lucky to have a father who can teach her how to safely handle firearms slackmaster Sep 2012 #264

There's still a fight over this? MrScorpio Sep 2012 #275

Sounds sort of like my dad, actually... Scootaloo Sep 2012 #276

There seems to be a meme being promoted that only the poor should hunt for food. PavePusher Sep 2012 #392

I hope you're not trying to put that in my mouth. Scootaloo Sep 2012 #399

I read this: PavePusher Sep 2012 #400

Well, they certainly don't do it for survival... Scootaloo Sep 2012 #406

"canned hunts", while they certainly exist... PavePusher Sep 2012 #407

It parallels the "organic is the only moral food" arguments. 4th law of robotics Sep 2012 #405

BFD, many people learn to shoot, to hunt at that age. montanto Sep 2012 #283

This was clearly just a stunt to endear him to the NRA. hamsterjill Sep 2012 #286

Are you for real? glacierbay Sep 2012 #297

Absolutely, I'm for real. hamsterjill Sep 2012 #298

Yeah glacierbay Sep 2012 #299

Well someone's gotta drive a ten year old to the mall. hamsterjill Sep 2012 #300

You have a good evening also. glacierbay Sep 2012 #302

You realize that first one is totally photoshopped, right? Brickbat Sep 2012 #303

Whoops. glacierbay Sep 2012 #306

You're welcome, and I'm sorry to cackle at you. Brickbat Sep 2012 #307

Quite alright glacierbay Sep 2012 #309

Fine by me. bigwillq Sep 2012 #288

Agreed. Hunting is part of the culture here in WI and this is a non-story. PeaceNikki Sep 2012 #308

my 2 cents... Hukdonfonix Sep 2012 #304

And... backcountry nadinbrzezinski Sep 2012 #314

ok Liberal_in_LA Sep 2012 #319

I live in San Diego, and as urban as it can get nadinbrzezinski Sep 2012 #320

Yeah, way easier to go kill things iamthebandfanman Sep 2012 #329

Can you live on Cal Fresh? nadinbrzezinski Sep 2012 #330

Changing the subject, but okay ill bite. iamthebandfanman Sep 2012 #333

Simpler than that, do you eat any form of animal product? nadinbrzezinski Sep 2012 #334

Are you saying it's better for people to be dependent than independent? PavePusher Sep 2012 #350

So is smoking crystal meth.. iamthebandfanman Sep 2012 #328

Nice insult there nadinbrzezinski Sep 2012 #331

insult? iamthebandfanman Sep 2012 #332

Given that I do not hunt sparky nadinbrzezinski Sep 2012 #336

STOP TRYING TO TAKE OUR GUNS GAWD!!! iamthebandfanman Sep 2012 #326

Hold your watches up, folks. eqfan592 Sep 2012 #344

What in the fuck does suicide have to do with hunting? glacierbay Sep 2012 #355

I do not consider this a relevant campaign issue bluestateguy Sep 2012 #327

Big fucking woopie. Who gives a fuck if he outfitts her in a turd hat. lonestarnot Sep 2012 #340

As a Southerner, I can't see what the deal is Shitty Mitty Sep 2012 #342

I call it ann--- Sep 2012 #351

Then you have no idea what real child abuse is glacierbay Sep 2012 #356

Agree with gb and... how do you think that food got to the store shelf? PavePusher Sep 2012 #359

I thought this was a parody but apparently such people exist: 4th law of robotics Sep 2012 #364

Not to mention the glaring cognitive disonance here: PavePusher Sep 2012 #393

Oh, are those the animals that self-butcher with full consent, and even package themselves? Brickbat Sep 2012 #360

Meat bought in stores comes from animals that died in their sleep 4th law of robotics Sep 2012 #363

Heh. Brickbat Sep 2012 #366

Is part of the offense that it's a girl rather than a boy? 4th law of robotics Sep 2012 #361

I would not be surprised at all. Brickbat Sep 2012 #362

no Skittles Sep 2012 #376

Kids are always trotted out in front of the cameras, it's a fact of political life Hippo_Tron Sep 2012 #382

Except I haven't seen any pictures of hiskids. PavePusher Sep 2012 #394

Public Service Announcement: PavePusher Sep 2012 #395

So saying that little girls (not little kids) 4th law of robotics Sep 2012 #403

I wouldn't accuse anyone specifically of believing that, but I think it's a good point Hippo_Tron Sep 2012 #381

Yeah that is interesting 4th law of robotics Sep 2012 #404

Youth deer season is tomorrow in VA... ileus Sep 2012 #374

Well, Ryan bagged his first 12-pointer when he was 3 years old jsr Sep 2012 #377

and he turned into such a swell, empathetic human being Skittles Sep 2012 #383

Which has... what, exactly, to do with hunting? n/t PavePusher Sep 2012 #397

Other than him being an all-around douche, what's the issue with a father hunting with his daughter? cleanhippie Sep 2012 #378

Gotta pass on the thrill kill. Ugh. n/t demmiblue Sep 2012 #380

As long as he eats what he hunts, what is the problem? PavePusher Sep 2012 #398

Wow...what a thread kwolf68 Sep 2012 #387