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oldsoftie

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86. This would only HELP trump. Stop with this nonsense.

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Thu Oct 8, 2020, 02:37 PM

Oct 2020

Pelosi should know better. Unless she's just toying with him like a cat with a mouse.

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25th Amendment Is FINALLY On The Table.... [View all] LovingA2andMI Oct 2020 OP

If I could give a 1000 recs BumRushDaShow Oct 2020 #1

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The Speaker of the House LovingA2andMI Oct 2020 #6

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You Go Find It. LovingA2andMI Oct 2020 #11

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The Speaker is SECOND in line. volstork Oct 2020 #61

Okay... LovingA2andMI Oct 2020 #62

She's in the line of succession Zeitghost Oct 2020 #94

Okay... LovingA2andMI Oct 2020 #95

There is no need to be condescending... Zeitghost Oct 2020 #102

Uh Huh.... LovingA2andMI Oct 2020 #103

You're very condescending. The person you're speaking down to is actually correct. Stand and Fight Oct 2020 #143

Tomorrow orangecrush Oct 2020 #136

THERE ARE NO TALKS! brooklynite Oct 2020 #131

Well the House is part of the process sadly just not the part that STARTS the process. Statistical Oct 2020 #13

Yes, it's an even higher bar than impeachment. Not happening. lagomorph777 Oct 2020 #25

It would buy Pence 21 days. You can do a lot in 21 days. tinrobot Oct 2020 #49

+1 sandensea Oct 2020 #71

It's worse than just Pence being a coward DFW Oct 2020 #112

Section 4 Marius25 Oct 2020 #42

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Thanks for that. crickets Oct 2020 #54

Welcome to DU! Tanuki Oct 2020 #57

a law requires the potus to sign it (or an over ride).... getagrip_already Oct 2020 #60

Very good. Yes, this makes clear that in Pelosi's statement, "we" means the House. gristy Oct 2020 #101

This seems very unlikely Statistical Oct 2020 #114

It is in Section 4 of the 25th amendment whopis01 Oct 2020 #125

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Post #13 is not quite correct whopis01 Oct 2020 #129

Well, only once the 25th has been invoked - not before.... getagrip_already Oct 2020 #59

That's not quite correct. whopis01 Oct 2020 #128

for congress to do that... getagrip_already Oct 2020 #147

My point was about what is in the Constitution. whopis01 Oct 2020 #150

It might be a suggestion of convening "The Gang of 8" (Intelligence) BumRushDaShow Oct 2020 #10

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I was scanning to see the origin of his tweet (he works for CNN) BumRushDaShow Oct 2020 #20

Yes. I think it was a stupid comment exboyfil Oct 2020 #15

One thing I've noticed about Mme Speaker: she never speaks idly Hekate Oct 2020 #69

On a table that can't do anything about it? onenote Oct 2020 #3

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For mental illness I hope pat_k Oct 2020 #4

Lord Knows.... LovingA2andMI Oct 2020 #14

My 25th BINGO card has been blacked out for months. Hugin Oct 2020 #5

Likely.... LovingA2andMI Oct 2020 #9

Care to expand on what these "behind the scenes" talks have suggested onenote Oct 2020 #21

True that - but I always thought it might be an escape hatch of sorts for trump getagrip_already Oct 2020 #64

The notion that Trump is looking for an out before election day is the height of pure fantasy onenote Oct 2020 #100

I agree, but mostly because... getagrip_already Oct 2020 #104

The Constitution is very vague exboyfil Oct 2020 #19

If there is no VP then the 25th can't be invoked. Statistical Oct 2020 #23

We're a month from the election... Calculating Oct 2020 #16

Lame duck damage CloudWatcher Oct 2020 #63

Could? He most certainly will try! getagrip_already Oct 2020 #66

Misspoke. CloudWatcher Oct 2020 #76

This has to do with gumming up SCOTUS nomination Le Roi de Pot Oct 2020 #17

How does anything the House does impact the Senate's consideration of a SCOTUS nominee? onenote Oct 2020 #22

Supreme Court deciding that impeachment precedes a confirmation floor vote? exboyfil Oct 2020 #24

Pelosi can discusss it but only the VP (and currently cabinet) can invoke the 25th. Statistical Oct 2020 #18

c) The POTUS disagrees My Pet Orangutan Oct 2020 #33

It needs to be discussed, with media reporting. The American people need to know Doodley Oct 2020 #26

I agree totally Doodley Blueplanet Oct 2020 #77

Steroid-induced psychosis? Botany Oct 2020 #27

omgomgomgomgomgomgomgomgomgomgomgomgomgomg lindysalsagal Oct 2020 #28

We should, have Pelosi's office call me about direct experience JCMach1 Oct 2020 #29

How are you doing? n/t moonscape Oct 2020 #126

if she calls for it publicly what is mother's boy gonna do? ihas2stinkyfeet Oct 2020 #30

We already know what he is going to do. He will back his master. Statistical Oct 2020 #32

and turn down his chance at the big chair? ihas2stinkyfeet Oct 2020 #35

Yes. Statistical Oct 2020 #36

I wonder if she knows there are some in the cabinet willing to go forward with this. honest.abe Oct 2020 #31

Congress cannot initiate a 25th Amendment action. MineralMan Oct 2020 #34

I think she is indicating there will be discussions.. not that she is initiating it. honest.abe Oct 2020 #37

Maybe she's just trying to get Turin_C3PO Oct 2020 #39

With putting it out there, she drives Trump over the edge. Captain Zero Oct 2020 #79

Not entirely true. Marius25 Oct 2020 #40

Also not entirely true FBaggins Oct 2020 #145

But, Republicans won't go along with it will they? Marius25 Oct 2020 #38

Talking to who? Renew Deal Oct 2020 #41

Talking is easy sarisataka Oct 2020 #43

I hope people know that she Pelosi is well aware that it's unlikely to actually be invoked. NYC Liberal Oct 2020 #44

At very least, it will drive Drumpf bananas. BlueWavePsych Oct 2020 #48

It's a good point. crickets Oct 2020 #65

I believe you've got it right. BarbD Oct 2020 #90

Woohoo! BlueWavePsych Oct 2020 #47

Oh, ok. Excuse me if I don't excited while nothing happens. themaguffin Oct 2020 #50

Section 4 Whenever the Vice President and a majority of either the principal officers elleng Oct 2020 #51

+1,000,000,000 pandr32 Oct 2020 #52

More Details... LovingA2andMI Oct 2020 #53

It isn't TimeToGo Oct 2020 #55

It Isn't What? LovingA2andMI Oct 2020 #58

On the table TimeToGo Oct 2020 #81

Catch up... LovingA2andMI Oct 2020 #82

Pence and the Cabinet are on CNN talking about? TimeToGo Oct 2020 #87

Umm..... LovingA2andMI Oct 2020 #89

Sigh TimeToGo Oct 2020 #92

funny. I don't see a single member of "the Cabinet" stopdiggin Oct 2020 #98

Praises be to Ceiling Doggo! shenmue Oct 2020 #56

Here's my scenario... llmart Oct 2020 #67

He should be talking to Barr, Mnuchin, Esper, Pompeo and the rest of the Cabinet exboyfil Oct 2020 #70

Someone smart is going to capture the news cycle for a couple of weeks. Pobeka Oct 2020 #68

Slim chance, but the fact Roc2020 Oct 2020 #72

25/45 Dark n Stormy Knight Oct 2020 #73

Do it to piss of Typhoid Donnie. Pepsidog Oct 2020 #74

So far I can only find RW sources for this, I hope they're right. marble falls Oct 2020 #75

About freaking time Evolve Dammit Oct 2020 #78

Thank You Jesus Cozmo Oct 2020 #80

It's so obviously necessary that it can't even be characterized as an October Surprise eleny Oct 2020 #83

Really? Just weeks before the election. Bubs55 Oct 2020 #84

Did You Miss The Plot.... LovingA2andMI Oct 2020 #85

I do realize tRump said that, and did not realize that was Pelosi's reason for trying the 25th. Bubs55 Oct 2020 #91

Do You Understand What The 25th Amendment Means or is Used For? LovingA2andMI Oct 2020 #96

Yes. I know. Bubs55 Oct 2020 #99

This would only HELP trump. Stop with this nonsense. oldsoftie Oct 2020 #86

How Exactly? LovingA2andMI Oct 2020 #88

As stated in #93, she has no say in the 25th. So it becomes fodder for the right. oldsoftie Oct 2020 #115

seems like it???? bdamomma Oct 2020 #116

Pelosi has no role in the process of 25th stopdiggin Oct 2020 #93

We can only hope MichaelSoE Oct 2020 #97

Have not read all the way thriough the replies, but my first thought? TruckFump Oct 2020 #105

How? The House can't do anything vis-a-vis the 25th amendment that would impact the Senate. onenote Oct 2020 #109

The issue is his competency. Which means... TruckFump Oct 2020 #118

How is the House going to determine Trump's competency? onenote Oct 2020 #120

Admissible evidence on the standard and.., TruckFump Oct 2020 #123

So the House is going to convene hearings and call witnesses who have not personally examined onenote Oct 2020 #124

Your point? TruckFump Oct 2020 #132

the point is that it won't have the slightest effect on the Senate hearings. onenote Oct 2020 #133

I disagree. EOM TruckFump Oct 2020 #134

As is your right. onenote Oct 2020 #135

Yes, those of us who use science and law. TruckFump Oct 2020 #140

A lot of people in this thread seem upset at the thought of the 25th being used against Trump UnderThisLaw Oct 2020 #106

Nonsense. I haven't seen anyone "upset" at the idea. Just realistic about it. onenote Oct 2020 #108

Hit close to home, huh? UnderThisLaw Oct 2020 #110

Nope. Nonsense doesn't hit close to home. But it deserves to be called out. onenote Oct 2020 #121

Which is exactly why I posted my reply to the OP UnderThisLaw Oct 2020 #122

Interesting.... LovingA2andMI Oct 2020 #113

The concern orangecrush Oct 2020 #139

When is self defense on the table? warmfeet Oct 2020 #107

FINALLY bdamomma Oct 2020 #111

Yes his wife could baker act him. Oppaloopa Oct 2020 #117

This presentation discusses the 25th. keithbvadu2 Oct 2020 #119

No, it's not... brooklynite Oct 2020 #130

Thank you madam speaker! ffr Oct 2020 #137

Tomorrow orangecrush Oct 2020 #138

Did you know Wash. state Desk Jet Oct 2020 #141

The optics are good. Aussie105 Oct 2020 #142

careful . . . this might well be seen as a "coup attempt" by those on "stand by" . . . OneBlueSky Oct 2020 #144

It's being discussed. I don't know how far it can go past that without Pence being on board. (nt) ehrnst Oct 2020 #146

What they're going to do is introduce legislation that would enable Congress to be involved.... George II Oct 2020 #148

We don't need speaknow Oct 2020 #149