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vaberella

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81. I sympathize with your son. But he DOES NOT speak for me, nor does OWS. Thank You.
Thu Sep 27, 2012, 11:45 AM
Sep 2012

I speak for myself and I fight for our rights. But I also do not claim to speak for others, nor would I assume so. There are good people in OWS and I think most people would attest to that. As there are good teabaggers. But there are also bad people and I find with OWS---the disorganization is not productive.

However, that has nothing to do with police abuse which is all over--they aren't even in the same debate. Police Abuse and any political movement are two different things to me because Police Abuse is on all fronts and as such need to be addressed. I hate cops for many reasons and this just adds to my hatred of those guys. Your son being part of the OWS is not the issue---they just want to expand their muscle and so cops do dirty shit.

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This is my son... [View all] catnhatnh Sep 2012 OP
Good for your son! CaliforniaPeggy Sep 2012 #1
Thanks catnhatnh Sep 2012 #10
Will be praying for you and your son. This stuff HAS to stop. Tigress DEM Sep 2012 #24
The NLG are heroes and so is your son. We do NOT believe in the 1st Amendment in this sabrina 1 Sep 2012 #39
It is time for a severe curtailment of police powers. Dawson Leery Sep 2012 #2
a very brave young man. please let us know the outcome of the trial. good thoughts for niyad Sep 2012 #3
K & R! lonestarnot Sep 2012 #4
He is very brave. ProfessionalLeftist Sep 2012 #5
Exactly. Fantastic Anarchist Sep 2012 #88
You must be so proud. alittlelark Sep 2012 #6
Please send a big thank you to your son, on my behalf. DrewFlorida Sep 2012 #7
On the behalf of all of us. I'm so sorry he was treated like this. whathehell Sep 2012 #73
Tolerance of outrages like this are what makes me so cynical and pessimistic about the future here Egalitarian Thug Sep 2012 #8
'To all you "Occupy is dead" assholes, fuck you'. I second that! sabrina 1 Sep 2012 #40
And I third it Tsiyu Sep 2012 #49
...to all you 'Occupy is dead' assholes, fuck you. SammyWinstonJack Sep 2012 #74
+1 Blue_Tires Sep 2012 #78
The very best for your son. This is just awful. anneboleyn Sep 2012 #109
More power to your son... TeeYiYi Sep 2012 #9
I'll be keeping all of you in my thoughts mrs_p Sep 2012 #11
Thank you... catnhatnh Sep 2012 #13
agreed mrs_p Sep 2012 #14
Maybe just 1000 or so post cards, "THE WHOLE WORLD IS WATCHING YOU NYPD - DO THE RIGHT THING" Tigress DEM Sep 2012 #25
LOL benjaminballen Sep 2012 #48
Let me reassure you: nobody, but nobody, gets time for violations in NYC alcibiades_mystery Sep 2012 #12
Thanks for the good info pinboy3niner Sep 2012 #16
Thanks catnhatnh Sep 2012 #17
Actually, since loitering is a violation, he is only at risk of 15 days in jail alcibiades_mystery Sep 2012 #19
Those are all good questions that require answers and we should keep asking them until sabrina 1 Sep 2012 #41
clarifacation benjaminballen Sep 2012 #45
Resisting arrest (without violence) is a Class A misdemeanor alcibiades_mystery Sep 2012 #59
How many people who get arrested on false The Wizard Sep 2012 #84
it sounds like you know the ropes here. druidity33 Sep 2012 #106
I have plenty of experience with the NYC courts system...on all sides! alcibiades_mystery Sep 2012 #108
Thank you for introducing your son to me... MrMickeysMom Sep 2012 #15
agree shireen Sep 2012 #18
Fuck people that criticize OWS. Bonobo Sep 2012 #20
I absolutely agree. I am very suspicious of those who claim to be Democrats sabrina 1 Sep 2012 #42
He is a heroe Pharaoh Sep 2012 #21
Please thank your son. He's in very good company. nolabear Sep 2012 #22
Best wishes to your... one_voice Sep 2012 #23
I don't agree with everything that the OWS is doing but I am so encouraged that there are grantcart Sep 2012 #26
I get them.... catnhatnh Sep 2012 #28
HEY KID!! Thank you for your service!! Tigress DEM Sep 2012 #27
Yes! ReasonableToo Sep 2012 #57
Keep us posted re. trial. I doubt if the media here will. Smarmie Doofus Sep 2012 #29
I wish your son all the best! I hope he will be able to avoid jail time! Cane4Dems Sep 2012 #30
OWS saved this country from being sliced and roguevalley Sep 2012 #31
knr spanone Sep 2012 #32
Thank him from me and mine. Smickey Sep 2012 #33
Proud to be rec. #100 Arugula Latte Sep 2012 #34
I suspect that he'll keep fighting the good fight...no matter what pinboy3niner Sep 2012 #35
I appreciate your son's service to our country. SunSeeker Sep 2012 #36
My thoughts will be with your son this next Monday Oct. 1 Does he have a lawyer? midnight Sep 2012 #37
The OP said he is being represented by the National Lawyers Guild. They are wonderful and have sabrina 1 Sep 2012 #44
Thank you Sabrina... This is so good to know... midnight Sep 2012 #85
As a person from Occupy Denver donheld Sep 2012 #38
A year for LOITERING??? M_M Sep 2012 #43
Very outrageous but it does happen. Jennicut Sep 2012 #82
For the lulz... benjaminballen Sep 2012 #46
Lol, good for you! They've been losing every case BECAUSE of the videos. sabrina 1 Sep 2012 #50
HEY! Didn't see you were here til just now Tsiyu Sep 2012 #51
Your son is a hero Tsiyu Sep 2012 #47
kr HiPointDem Sep 2012 #52
New tactic for protesters: automatic upload to social media while videoing and making stills. nt Bernardo de La Paz Sep 2012 #53
You raised a good 'un, catnhatnh. Sending positive thoughts Surya Gayatri Sep 2012 #54
I can't help but notice all the people NOT in this thread. Scootaloo Sep 2012 #55
make sure you have the aclu lawyers involved 2pooped2pop Sep 2012 #56
You have a beautiful family and a very brave son. myrna minx Sep 2012 #58
I recall that loitering laws were declared unconstitutionally vague years ago. jerseyjack Sep 2012 #60
K&R rosesaylavee Sep 2012 #61
I love all the hard nosed OWSers! lunatica Sep 2012 #62
people like your son are the true heroes out there, not military guys like me Victor_c3 Sep 2012 #63
That's a Good Boy you got there Burma Jones Sep 2012 #64
You should be proud. progressoid Sep 2012 #65
K & R AzDar Sep 2012 #66
Thank you. K&R. n/t DLevine Sep 2012 #67
Occupy! You son is a hero. Bluenorthwest Sep 2012 #68
As a mother, I too am proud of your son mountain grammy Sep 2012 #69
Replace your state and local Congress people and change that law back. porphyrian Sep 2012 #70
K&R Odin2005 Sep 2012 #71
CHANGE .ORG PETITION? WE WOULD ALL SIGN IT! DonRedwood Sep 2012 #72
Our Support mstinamotorcity2 Sep 2012 #75
I thank your son for being the person he is.... Harriety Sep 2012 #76
Wow! Your son is handsome and your grandkids DevonRex Sep 2012 #77
+1 freshwest Sep 2012 #92
He's a hero!! K&R closeupready Sep 2012 #79
Please tell your son thank you. renie408 Sep 2012 #80
I sympathize with your son. But he DOES NOT speak for me, nor does OWS. Thank You. vaberella Sep 2012 #81
Mayor Goonberg The Wizard Sep 2012 #83
Am praying/sending good vibes to your hero-son duhneece Sep 2012 #86
Kudos to your son. Fantastic Anarchist Sep 2012 #87
It's time to curb police powers in this country... OldDem2012 Sep 2012 #89
I'm surprised NYC has the $$ for such petty issues lebkuchen Sep 2012 #90
Thank your son for me, I hope he gets his property back. OWS is our hope for the future. crunch60 Sep 2012 #91
Beautiful family! There is a special place in arthritisR_US Sep 2012 #93
HUGE K & R !!! WillyT Sep 2012 #94
DUers in his part of the country should show up in court malaise Sep 2012 #95
Thank you brave patriot! Dont call me Shirley Sep 2012 #96
Brave Man chuckrocks Sep 2012 #97
The police, judges, and attorneys for the city... Blanks Sep 2012 #98
Your son is so brave to be on the front lines of the REAL WAR. valerief Sep 2012 #99
catnhatnh's son here!!! benjaminballen Sep 2012 #100
Best to you Benjamin. PufPuf23 Sep 2012 #101
Good Luck To You... And, THANK YOU !!! WillyT Sep 2012 #103
you're going to beat this -- and sue the shit out of them. nashville_brook Sep 2012 #104
no ofeense to any soldiers DonCoquixote Sep 2012 #102
Your son is a righteous dude and you are a cool Mom. nt. limpyhobbler Sep 2012 #105
I envy your son his courage. May justice prevail in his trial. WinkyDink Sep 2012 #107
k & r girl gone mad Sep 2012 #110
k&r Liberal_in_LA Sep 2012 #111
UPDATE benjaminballen Apr 2013 #112
ANOTHER UPDATE FOR THOSE INTERESTED IN THE OCCUPY WALL STREET IRIS SCAN CASES benjaminballen May 2014 #113
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