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agingdem

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6. this isn't 2016

Reply to Wounded Bear (Reply #2)

Fri Oct 9, 2020, 07:11 PM

Oct 2020

Joe isn't Hillary ... the world as we know it doesn't exist anymore...the polls mean nothing...we vote..we win...

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Ari on MSNBC wasd just talking about Hillary polling higher than Joe is at the same time in the [View all] napi21 Oct 2020 OP

Me too XanaDUer2 Oct 2020 #1

I zoned out when he started that one... Wounded Bear Oct 2020 #2

this isn't 2016 agingdem Oct 2020 #6

Yep. Scurrilous Oct 2020 #13

yes bdamomma Oct 2020 #37

there is a big difference. drray23 Oct 2020 #3

Exactly. This is not 2016. peggysue2 Oct 2020 #69

This! icymist Oct 2020 #71

IIRC that's not true, according to the polls Ari reported in some swing states. spooky3 Oct 2020 #74

Huge difference in undecided voters though. Hardly anyone is undecided now OnDoutside Oct 2020 #4

This isn't even close to the same vercetti2021 Oct 2020 #5

Not true. HC 44.8% DT 39.7% 10-9-16 Cattledog Oct 2020 #7

Ari talked about 2 swing states not the national polling which he admitted mean nothing cause its uponit7771 Oct 2020 #19

trump has a record or lack thereof to run on in 2020. Norbert Oct 2020 #52

I saw comment on this a few days ago. The moonscape Oct 2020 #8

It's all about turn out msdogi Oct 2020 #9

I don't remember millions of voters having already voted at this time secondwind Oct 2020 #10

Exactly. At this point in 2016 we still had less than a million vote. jorgevlorgan Oct 2020 #16

and trump is the incumbent. everybody knows all about him besides democrats nt msongs Oct 2020 #11

He must be cherry-picking the polls... regnaD kciN Oct 2020 #12

Yep -- Cherry-Picking The High Point (Right After Access Hollywood Tape, Before Comey Late Hit nt) smb Oct 2020 #32

ah ... got it uponit7771 Oct 2020 #38

Well that's not even close to true. jorgevlorgan Oct 2020 #14

Exactly! Melber..a two siderism jerk. Sowing doubt Thekaspervote Oct 2020 #17

I mean if it were true, I wouldn't mind. But I don't understand why they have to say untrue things. jorgevlorgan Oct 2020 #20

Ari Melber has turned into a total jerk..he was dissing Joe the their day about age Thekaspervote Oct 2020 #15

Exactly Trumpocalypse Oct 2020 #63

Sometimes I wonder about him, is he a democrat or a republican. I went to CNN after Nicolle. Happily katmondoo Oct 2020 #18

not true . my dream is that EVERYONE turn off TV and stop feeding the beast NRaleighLiberal Oct 2020 #21

Hillary's poll numbers took a hit after Comey announced reopening email probe mid- October wishstar Oct 2020 #22

+1 uponit7771 Oct 2020 #39

Ari lied, HRC NEVER had a lead like Biden has. Question is why did he lie? beachbumbob Oct 2020 #23

As I Noted Above, HRC *VERY BRIEFLY* Had That Lead smb Oct 2020 #33

+1, looks like Ari took date to date polling after Access Hollywood tape and not week to week or ... uponit7771 Oct 2020 #55

Ratings, views, horse race. GulfCoast66 Oct 2020 #59

I saw swing state polls the other day... ClusterFreak Oct 2020 #24

I distincly remember seeing Steve Kornaki doing a segment comparing Hillary and Bidens polling leads Dream Girl Oct 2020 #25

He showed RCP averages for today which was right after Access Hollywood tapes and before Comey. uponit7771 Oct 2020 #40

Comey news the end of the month, 11 days before election, took her down 7 points. LizBeth Oct 2020 #26

+1 uponit7771 Oct 2020 #41

Look at this comparison HelpImSurrounded Oct 2020 #27

That's nationally, Ari was talking about 2 swing state polls with date to date info but didn't ... uponit7771 Oct 2020 #53

Absolutely false- 2016: HRC +4.3% 2020: Biden +9.6% Fiendish Thingy Oct 2020 #28

I don't recall BainsBane Oct 2020 #29

So, with all the evidence to the contrary of the assertions in your OP, are you still scared? Nt Fiendish Thingy Oct 2020 #30

Virtually all of the evidence to the contrary provided Ms. Toad Oct 2020 #34

A 10% margin in the pop vote gives 99.9% odds of EC win; HRC had 2-3% which 50% odds Fiendish Thingy Oct 2020 #43

You cannot predict the votes in key states by the margin in the popular vote. Ms. Toad Oct 2020 #48

Quinnipiac poll of PA Oct 7: Biden +13%, 2.8%MOE Fiendish Thingy Oct 2020 #54

That data is at least responsive to the concern raised in the OP, Ms. Toad Oct 2020 #58

Of course he is still vulnerable. Ms. Toad Oct 2020 #31

HA! No she wasn't! OhZone Oct 2020 #35

Those are national numbers, the numbers Ari was touting were two swing states but it looks like it.. uponit7771 Oct 2020 #42

Putin did even more. triron Oct 2020 #56

+1, if that was LV low MOE data in 16 then that's not far fetched. Right now Comey looks like the... uponit7771 Oct 2020 #62

The national spread does not have a direct correlation Ms. Toad Oct 2020 #50

Why do you say that? BGBD Oct 2020 #64

National polls predict the popular vote, not the electoral vote. Ms. Toad Oct 2020 #65

It just doesn't work like that in practice. BGBD Oct 2020 #68

Unless you are basing it on state polls, it isn't a polling error - Ms. Toad Oct 2020 #70

And? BGBD Oct 2020 #72

But she lost based on STATE results, she did not lose the popular national vote. Ms. Toad Oct 2020 #73

Another key difference in the EC vs national polls spooky3 Oct 2020 #76

Agreed. Ms. Toad Oct 2020 #78

Thank YOU! smirkymonkey Oct 2020 #60

I stopped recording him. He is a jerk. He knows how helpisontheway Oct 2020 #36

I don't record him or Chris Hayes any more Dream Girl Oct 2020 #45

I can't stand how BainsBane Oct 2020 #66

That's not true even Obama 08 only polled 7.6 Tribetime Oct 2020 #44

I just watched him liberalmediaaddict Oct 2020 #46

Yeah, that segment was a major downer today. beaglelover Oct 2020 #47

I saw it too. PlanetBev Oct 2020 #49

Ari's always been an annoying, too-clever-by-half, imp. He may pass oasis Oct 2020 #51

absolutely disagree, I really like him a lot nt Celerity Oct 2020 #77

What did you think of his interview of whacko Scott Adams (Dilbert)10/19? oasis Oct 2020 #80

was not impressed, but I still like him, never going to agree 100% with anyone Celerity Oct 2020 #81

Fair enough. nt oasis Oct 2020 #82

So do something! treestar Oct 2020 #57

Yes, Volunteer! BainsBane Oct 2020 #67

Ari can't be trusted. LiberalFighter Oct 2020 #61

I think he was clearly trying to warn us not to be complacent or overconfident spooky3 Oct 2020 #75

Ari at it again Monday with "Dewey defeats Truman" headline pic. oasis Oct 2020 #79