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ChoppinBroccoli

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20. Believe It Or Not, I Actually GET The Appeal Of 2016 Trump
Fri Oct 9, 2020, 10:07 PM
Oct 2020

Last edited Fri Oct 9, 2020, 10:45 PM - Edit history (1)

I really do. The whole, "he's an outsider who's going to roll into Washington and shake things up, and do things a different way, and it's going to be so refreshing and new," thing can be very appealing. It was to me. I didn't vote for Trump (I saw through his line of bullshit early on), but it's a major reason why I supported Bernie in 2016. Don't worry, I wasn't a "Bernie Bro" who got my feelings hurt and then voted for Trump out of spite.

All I'm saying is the appeal of somebody who promises to come in and do things a different way is a real thing. I honestly get it. The thing is, the entire country has seen for 4 years that he's NOT that guy. So he's going to lose all those people who voted for him because they were hoping he'd "drain the swamp." So all those, "let's give this NEW guy a shot and see what he can do" voters are gone this time around.

That's a major reason why I believe 2020 is going to be vastly different from 2016. That, and the fact that there is a huge segment of the population who just didn't vote in 2016 because they "didn't like either of them," who are all super-motivated to get out and vote for Biden this time around. I have at least 3 of these people in my own family, and I'm willing to bet every person on this board knows at least one person like that. That's a huge swing of voters right there. And we're talking about a guy who lost by 3 million votes LAST time, with all those advantages he had in 2016.

I think he gets his clock cleaned. In a way that leaves NO doubt, and NO room for legal challenges. I bet he loses the popular vote by 10 million votes this time around. And in my very conservative estimate of the Electoral vote (based on my almost obsessive poll-watching State-by-State), I have Biden with 353 electoral votes.

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All pretty good points... Wounded Bear Oct 2020 #1
Add the midterms of 2018 to your list. Yavin4 Oct 2020 #2
Good points Lotusflower70 Oct 2020 #3
One thought that constantly comes to my mind is that the majority of Americans want Blue_true Oct 2020 #14
I agree DLCWIdem Oct 2020 #18
Anyone with half a brain should agree that the notion of a federal government that is so Blue_true Oct 2020 #22
Good points--have you seen the 'mail in the ditch' stories? Ponietz Oct 2020 #4
👍 redstateblues Oct 2020 #5
Nailed it MoonlitKnight Oct 2020 #6
Unfortunately Ohiogal Oct 2020 #7
All that is true. For me it is more personal. GulfCoast66 Oct 2020 #8
I still worry about ballots being invalidated or delayed soothsayer Oct 2020 #9
That is why we need to be smart about voting. Blue_true Oct 2020 #16
Yes yes, early in person soothsayer Oct 2020 #17
I feel way better. There was so much Dem infighting last time, not at all now. Happyhippychick Oct 2020 #10
Also Willto Oct 2020 #11
No analysis omitting Russia & foreign actors is accurate delisen Oct 2020 #12
THE COMEY LETTER at the last minute tripped the switch. brush Oct 2020 #13
Here is more DLCWIdem Oct 2020 #15
Oops I forgot one DLCWIdem Oct 2020 #19
+1 uponit7771 Oct 2020 #26
Believe It Or Not, I Actually GET The Appeal Of 2016 Trump ChoppinBroccoli Oct 2020 #20
+1 uponit7771 Oct 2020 #27
Add to that Biden is a pretty likable guy. LisaL Oct 2020 #21
James Comey is no longer in government. spanone Oct 2020 #23
Two more reasons... regnaD kciN Oct 2020 #24
Yeah that was one of my points. DLCWIdem Oct 2020 #25
Excellent points, and one more thing too Withywindle Oct 2020 #28
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