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regnaD kciN

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24. Two more reasons...
Fri Oct 9, 2020, 11:10 PM
Oct 2020

...(although the first may piss off some here):

8.) Joe is not a Clinton. Seriously, most of the people on the left that I know of who were really unhappy with the outcome of the 2016 primary race were those who had worked to get Bill Clinton elected, only to see him eagerly (and, some would say, unnecessarily) "compromise" in ways that enacted tons of Republican "wish list" legislation (NAFTA, severe restrictions on AFDC, DOMA, banking deregulation, the "superpredator" crime bill, etc., etc.) without really ever getting anything in return. While it's possible that Hillary Clinton could have charted a more progressive course than her husband, the distrust ran pretty deep, and she frankly didn't help dissipate it by mockingly dismissing any progressive proposal as "free ponies!" and the like. But, even among those who didn't have an ideological dislike of Clintonism, there was a definite "Clinton fatigue" from those years -- if Bill was in some sense a "teflon president" who had nothing stick to him, it could be said that what didn't stick to him stuck to those around him, rendering both Al Gore and Hillary into "velcro candidates."

and, of course

9.) As others have pointed out above, polling organizations re-balanced their demographic allotments in the wake of 2016 to correct for what caused them to be off that year. In general, that meant assuming that less of the white portion of the electorate had a college degree, and thus increasing the weight to non-college-educated whites. In other words, the polls we see today have the 2016 correction already baked into them.

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All pretty good points... Wounded Bear Oct 2020 #1
Add the midterms of 2018 to your list. Yavin4 Oct 2020 #2
Good points Lotusflower70 Oct 2020 #3
One thought that constantly comes to my mind is that the majority of Americans want Blue_true Oct 2020 #14
I agree DLCWIdem Oct 2020 #18
Anyone with half a brain should agree that the notion of a federal government that is so Blue_true Oct 2020 #22
Good points--have you seen the 'mail in the ditch' stories? Ponietz Oct 2020 #4
👍 redstateblues Oct 2020 #5
Nailed it MoonlitKnight Oct 2020 #6
Unfortunately Ohiogal Oct 2020 #7
All that is true. For me it is more personal. GulfCoast66 Oct 2020 #8
I still worry about ballots being invalidated or delayed soothsayer Oct 2020 #9
That is why we need to be smart about voting. Blue_true Oct 2020 #16
Yes yes, early in person soothsayer Oct 2020 #17
I feel way better. There was so much Dem infighting last time, not at all now. Happyhippychick Oct 2020 #10
Also Willto Oct 2020 #11
No analysis omitting Russia & foreign actors is accurate delisen Oct 2020 #12
THE COMEY LETTER at the last minute tripped the switch. brush Oct 2020 #13
Here is more DLCWIdem Oct 2020 #15
Oops I forgot one DLCWIdem Oct 2020 #19
+1 uponit7771 Oct 2020 #26
Believe It Or Not, I Actually GET The Appeal Of 2016 Trump ChoppinBroccoli Oct 2020 #20
+1 uponit7771 Oct 2020 #27
Add to that Biden is a pretty likable guy. LisaL Oct 2020 #21
James Comey is no longer in government. spanone Oct 2020 #23
Two more reasons... regnaD kciN Oct 2020 #24
Yeah that was one of my points. DLCWIdem Oct 2020 #25
Excellent points, and one more thing too Withywindle Oct 2020 #28
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