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JohnnyRingo

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22. I guess you and I came away with different opinions of the article's gist
Mon Jan 9, 2012, 01:45 PM
Jan 2012

I saw it as a good lesson in how and why government should help guide that invisible free hand of the market. Tarriffs, whle being a useful tool in levelling the table for some manufactured goods like steel and autos, may not be as effective for farm commodities. Manufacturing remains consistent while crops can vary from year to year depending on unpredictable forces.

I believe the US should head toward a more coodinated venture with government oversight of what we grow and how much. Huge swings in food commodity prices, like in Norway, can put small farms out of business during gluts, and spike prices during shortages that gouge the consumer.

Think Hank Kimble County Agent dropping by and suggesting to farmers they plant more wheat this spring by offering a few hundred bucks a square acre to prevent high bread prices, or perhaps telling Mom and Pop Farmer they plant something else like corn that offers a subsidy so the US doesn't have to dump their wheat overseas. Instead of a tarriff to keep Mexican tomatos out of the country, offer US farmers an incentive to grow more of them instead of future McDonalds french fies. That's pure socialism.

Our food supply is something that can't govern itself, nor does any farmer have a crystal ball to tell him what will be profitable next year. Allowing the govt to keep it's hand on the pulse of food production can keep supply and demand in stable balance. In the '70s an oversupply of dairy goods caused the govt to step in and give away cheese to the masses. The drop in prices when conservatives stopped that program drove small farmers to apply for shark loans and created a market for the Neil Young and Willie Nelson benefit concerts that continue today.

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Butter Lines In Norway [View all] JohnnyRingo Jan 2012 OP
Oh boo-hoo it's just some butter - life goes on slay Jan 2012 #1
While I understand your sentiment Dorian Gray Jan 2012 #9
that is a contemptible and disgusting attitude to have. provis99 Jan 2012 #37
Huh? So you're saying it's NOT butter? Was it Parkay? slay Jan 2012 #39
Do Norwegians eat that much butter? JDPriestly Jan 2012 #2
It's not a coincidence that the Land O' Lakes (MN) and Wisconsin attracted so many Scandinavians... JVS Jan 2012 #3
LOL: "more steak". JohnnyRingo Jan 2012 #5
Post removed Post removed Jan 2012 #18
funny story. Liberal_in_LA Jan 2012 #36
They were trying to protect their dairy farmers though import taxes JohnnyRingo Jan 2012 #4
If you mean isolationism is equal to tariffs, I'm afraid I disagree. fasttense Jan 2012 #6
Depends on your trade deficit/surplus. nt Snake Alchemist Jan 2012 #11
Most of what you said made sense, however... Zalatix Jan 2012 #7
Depends on your trade deficit/surplus. nt Snake Alchemist Jan 2012 #10
Indeed, tariffs should not be static, they should be for balancing purposes Zalatix Jan 2012 #14
So Norwegian dairy farmers made some krona of the temporary shortage, big freaking deal. Fool Count Jan 2012 #8
Welp, that's it. Any comparison or wish to be like any kind of Scandinavian socialist democracy Brickbat Jan 2012 #12
yep, Norway is a liberal dystopia Enrique Jan 2012 #20
I guess you and I came away with different opinions of the article's gist JohnnyRingo Jan 2012 #22
+1 Starry Messenger Jan 2012 #33
Motley Fool? This is a pro "free trade" anti "protective tariff" screed intended to poo-poo.. matmar Jan 2012 #13
+1 redqueen Jan 2012 #16
A Butter message to the USA! Swede Jan 2012 #15
Tommy's my new hero MichaelMcGuire Jan 2012 #28
While I do not understand the economics of this I do see the necessity of keeping farming local. jwirr Jan 2012 #17
We don't export wheat to stop other countries from growing it. JohnnyRingo Jan 2012 #23
Yes, those subsidies worked - when I was growing up on a farm there were many acres laying jwirr Jan 2012 #24
we need to brace for a wave of Norwegian butter refugees Enrique Jan 2012 #19
I cant BELIEVE noone here gets it. WingDinger Jan 2012 #21
I don't really know how much butter is in my diet JohnnyRingo Jan 2012 #25
Good thing the ethanol subsidy ended, or you might be jonesing for your corn syrup. WingDinger Jan 2012 #26
I actually like sugar better JohnnyRingo Jan 2012 #27
What are you, Mexican? I did like sugar coke better too. WingDinger Jan 2012 #29
Buy cream..make butter at home. It's not rocket science SoCalDem Jan 2012 #30
Hahaha. To me making a meatloaf is rocket science. JohnnyRingo Jan 2012 #31
Unsurprisingly, there are import tariffs on milk and cream too muriel_volestrangler Jan 2012 #35
I hope they aren't having to put olive oil on their lutefisk. The Velveteen Ocelot Jan 2012 #32
Norway higher GDP per capita than the US. ErikJ Jan 2012 #34
If only that "average Mississippian" existed anywhere in the real world, Fool Count Jan 2012 #38
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