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KY_EnviroGuy

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45. Agree with you but I would add....

Sun Oct 11, 2020, 08:59 PM

Oct 2020

it's important to periodically remind the public of all the means of transmission along with best safety and preventative practices.

It might well be that transmission by air is 10X, 20X or more in likelihood for being the source but carelessness and complacency with surface concerns in public places like stores, public bathrooms and schools may produce significant additions to the overall number of infections.

Because there's no way to determine precisely what causes each infection, we're left with probability and statistics to give us most likely causes.

Also agree that the environmental systems in enclosed public places are not designed to minimize the spread of germs, but instead to minimize energy consumption. Would be nice if every worker had their own HEPA-filtered bubble to exist in, at least for most of their work day.

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