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25. Not everything. He can change the focus from persecuting marijuana sales to

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prosecuting Wall Street FatCats.

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If we give him a MANDATE, he'd better USE IT. [View all] elehhhhna Sep 2012 OP

Pulling hard to the left would be the orpupilofnature57 Sep 2012 #1

don't think a hard left is going to come from Obama, no matter the mandate northoftheborder Sep 2012 #2

agreed unfortunately roguevalley Sep 2012 #19

Obama is not a progressive. Many have mistaken him for that. Honeycombe8 Sep 2012 #60

Agreed Honey tech3149 Sep 2012 #85

He could have pressed the GOP MUCH harder many times. He played it safe for reelection. BlueStreak Sep 2012 #102

Eight years of slightly left is better than four years of radically left and four years of repeals tarheelsunc Sep 2012 #140

I take your point, but let's examine 2010. BlueStreak Sep 2012 #142

I do agree with that. Most people in the country are not progressive. Honeycombe8 Sep 2012 #153

Most community organizers tend to be progressives. Kindly Refrain Sep 2012 #126

Most people don't know any community organizers. My pt was that Obama did not deceive anyone. Honeycombe8 Sep 2012 #154

It's up to us. Obama is not going to throw himself on his sword for us. bemildred Sep 2012 #3

yes! Voice for Peace Sep 2012 #35

"Obama is not going to throw himself on his sword for us." Egalitarian Thug Sep 2012 #92

What the hell more does he want? BlueStreak Sep 2012 #106

The problem is that ultimately, Presidents do not make law. bemildred Sep 2012 #124

Presidents have a lot of power legislatively BlueStreak Sep 2012 #125

THIS. And I would offer, that this IS the way it is.. Volaris Sep 2012 #110

I hope everyone has picked some House races DURHAM D Sep 2012 #4

What's an example of a hard left you would like to see him do? limpyhobbler Sep 2012 #5

Dump the Patriot Act for a start. nm rhett o rick Sep 2012 #20

I give that 0% chance of happening. Pres. Obama simply loves the Patriot Act. nt limpyhobbler Sep 2012 #28

Yep, that's what you are going to say about my whole list. We're fucked. nm rhett o rick Sep 2012 #52

That Is My Fervent Wish... WillyT Sep 2012 #6

We need to give him the Senate, to save SCOTUS. nt msanthrope Sep 2012 #7

See post 88 nt tama Sep 2012 #89

I have a dream Voice for Peace Sep 2012 #8

I want what you're smokin'. rhett o rick Sep 2012 #24

me too! Voice for Peace Sep 2012 #37

I hate to be a downer, but they will. Those in the ruling class live by different rules. nm rhett o rick Sep 2012 #49

Sadly agree. gateley Sep 2012 #51

I'll have to disagree with you slightly on the ruling class bit Hutzpa Sep 2012 #66

Yup tama Sep 2012 #114

Exactly Hutzpa Sep 2012 #133

What it takes to tama Sep 2012 #134

"Hardly recognizable"??Yeah, thats a no DiverDave Sep 2012 #118

You would like to think so Hutzpa Sep 2012 #132

So, How do we get them out? DiverDave Sep 2012 #150

That would be sweet! Cali_Democrat Sep 2012 #26

We have to be realistic Hutzpa Sep 2012 #68

I would hope that...but if it's close (in the end) and neck and neck.. KoKo Sep 2012 #9

Everything depends on the makeup of Congress. nt valerief Sep 2012 #10

Not everything. He can change the focus from persecuting marijuana sales to rhett o rick Sep 2012 #25

I don't think that's likely. Bankers donate more money to campaigns than potheads. Selatius Sep 2012 #70

What bankster have given money to his campaign this time around? Hutzpa Sep 2012 #76

Insinuation by question. Why dont you tell us in the form of a statement instead of question. rhett o rick Sep 2012 #93

There are a few, very few. Wall Street campaign donations - 10-90 Obama-Romney. pampango Sep 2012 #117

My point exactly Hutzpa Sep 2012 #129

... Selatius Sep 2012 #155

What a damn shame Hutzpa Sep 2012 #156

Which raises the question of just who does he work for, the people or the party? n/t Egalitarian Thug Sep 2012 #94

been there. He did not use the mandate. He literally made the left leave the room. over and over. robinlynne Sep 2012 #11

i think the dynamic changes if we actually congres both ends of pennsylvania avenue unblock Sep 2012 #23

who cares what the right says. single payer should have been ON THE TABLE. then we might have a robinlynne Sep 2012 #29

The right has shown us that they don't give a shit Hutzpa Sep 2012 #71

exactly. unblock Sep 2012 #107

in this case, mandate == trifecta (presidency + house + senate) unblock Sep 2012 #12

+1 emulatorloo Sep 2012 #13

...and that equal same thing we had last time!!!!! We need FILIBUSTER proof senate, plesae people uponit7771 Sep 2012 #21

No. I believe the filibuster needs to be completely retired. BlueCaliDem Sep 2012 #39

Duh! nm rhett o rick Sep 2012 #50

They actually never filibuster. the Dems just accept the idea that they will. robinlynne Sep 2012 #59

That is incorrect. BlueCaliDem Sep 2012 #100

interesting read. The Dems still have not made them do it. robinlynne Sep 2012 #108

Thanks! nt valerief Sep 2012 #121

technically, a filibuster is ANY delaying tactic. talking endlessly is merely the most famous way. unblock Sep 2012 #104

I agree Aeroette Sep 2012 #103

Harry Reid BlueCaliDem Sep 2012 #128

You are describing the year 2008. robinlynne Sep 2012 #30

I really hope we don't have a repeat of the nonsense we went through a few years ago Cary Sep 2012 #14

which nonsense was that? robinlynne Sep 2012 #61

Private insurance mandate without a Public Option. That was the biggest kick, imho Selatius Sep 2012 #77

gotcha. I'm with you. robinlynne Sep 2012 #91

At the very least, the media can stop pretending that this is a conservative country.. girl gone mad Sep 2012 #15

"corrupt actions"? SickOfTheOnePct Sep 2012 #41

He is unilaterally murdering people in Pakistan. There is no declaration of war with Pakistan, Egalitarian Thug Sep 2012 #95

Hmm tama Sep 2012 #113

"corrupt actions" What?? Hutzpa Sep 2012 #73

None of this wishful thinking matters if we don't get the House and retain the Senate Liberal_Stalwart71 Sep 2012 #16

IF you REALLY want him to "use it" then get him a filibuster proof congress!!!!!!!!!! uponit7771 Sep 2012 #17

Congress? treestar Sep 2012 #18

+1 exactly, this OP is more of the same flamingdem Sep 2012 #22

I think that the right will use "the Fear of a Obama mandate" to make sure that all Fox News watchin jorno67 Sep 2012 #27

slow and steady wins the long term race graham4anything Sep 2012 #31

+ 1000. This is the exact correct approach in our government. Slow and steady BlueCaliDem Sep 2012 #42

Which direction have we been slowly and steadily moving in over the last 30 years? Bonobo Sep 2012 #74

Unequivocally to the right Art_from_Ark Sep 2012 #105

I don't think he will. He had one in 2008. rug Sep 2012 #32

He went Center-Right as hard as he could during his first term. Why Left, now? leveymg Sep 2012 #33

Was that when we got ObamaCare? Cha Sep 2012 #63

ObamaCare is RMoneyCare. Have you never heard of Log Cabin Republicans? leveymg Sep 2012 #120

No it isn't. President Obama is Cha Sep 2012 #138

Our definitions of progressive differ. I think you mean pragmatic. leveymg Sep 2012 #144

I mean what has been accomplished so far with the Cha Sep 2012 #147

With recognition of how hard this is, I still want some progressive with the delivered pragmatics. leveymg Sep 2012 #148

In the USA, the only real mandate comes with 60 or more Senators and control of the House nt. andym Sep 2012 #34

I love this thread. enlightenment Sep 2012 #36

Exactly correct. n/t Le Taz Hot Sep 2012 #78

+1 Egalitarian Thug Sep 2012 #96

. n/t porphyrian Sep 2012 #38

Mandate Level Vote Would Mean He Carried a Lot More Folks Than Lib Dems Indykatie Sep 2012 #40

IMHO the country as a whole truebluegreen Sep 2012 #45

He won't have much room to navigate........ Swede Atlanta Sep 2012 #43

Harry Reid has been the majority leader of the Senate for 9 of the last 11 years. Does the phrase Egalitarian Thug Sep 2012 #98

It never ceases to amaze me that everyone doesn't understand that. wilsonbooks Sep 2012 #101

That's why it's so hard to be a Democrat. Being a republican is easy, there's no ambiguity there. Egalitarian Thug Sep 2012 #119

These economic royalists are the malefactors of great wealth. OSPREYXIV Sep 2012 #151

Your lips to Dog's ears n/t truebluegreen Sep 2012 #44

it would be nice to see Obama seriously stop compromising with repukes Skittles Sep 2012 #46

Unless he gets the house & a filibuster proof senate there is no MANDATE krawhitham Sep 2012 #47

My wish list includes phiddle Sep 2012 #48

Democrats had a mandate in 2008... kentuck Sep 2012 #53

For 24 days? FDR had a mandate, 83% dem congress... uponit7771 Sep 2012 #55

Not really. He didn't win by a landslide. But if you're talking about having both houses of Congress Honeycombe8 Sep 2012 #62

They had one and failed to use it. MrSlayer Sep 2012 #54

The only way he will turn left DonCoquixote Sep 2012 #56

Universal single payer health care... fadedrose Sep 2012 #57

We'd all love that, and it'd be the right thing. But it will never ever happen in the 2nd term. Honeycombe8 Sep 2012 #64

People are going broke paying for health care... fadedrose Sep 2012 #83

They barely passed what we have now, and if I recall correctly, hughee99 Sep 2012 #79

Have faith . . . fadedrose Sep 2012 #81

Oh, I don't dare think landslide. It would be great...but I'm a'feared of being jinxed. Honeycombe8 Sep 2012 #58

I agree, would love to see that but I'm not holding my breath Raine Sep 2012 #65

My thoughts: What do you define as a mandate? onenote Sep 2012 #67

A hard left turn is very unlikely if all the new Democrats are right-wingers. Selatius Sep 2012 #69

To all the people saying such a thing is impossible without a perfect senate and congress takeover.. Bonobo Sep 2012 #72

It's game theory. Nash equilibrium to be exact. Selatius Sep 2012 #80

I agree. What solution does that suggest to you? Bonobo Sep 2012 #82

There is no solution that would be called easy. Nothing that could be done in one lifetime. Selatius Sep 2012 #86

Thank god somebody else can game theory DevonRex Sep 2012 #112

Why indeed. +1 Egalitarian Thug Sep 2012 #99

You mean "continue to use it", NYC Liberal Sep 2012 #75

Hmmm, I think we need to hold onto the Senate first. Jennicut Sep 2012 #84

Obama is not going to move hard left. It's not where he wants to go. JDPriestly Sep 2012 #87

SCOTUS? tama Sep 2012 #88

Medicare for all and out of Afghanistan now! B Calm Sep 2012 #90

Because you think all 53% of the population who will vote for him ... frazzled Sep 2012 #97

I was thinking the same thing Joe Shlabotnik Sep 2012 #109

It's heartening to see Summer Hathaway Sep 2012 #111

Predictable Third Way garbage from you. woo me with science Sep 2012 #122

Perhaps you can give us a list about what being a Democrat means. randome Sep 2012 #130

What a steaming turd of irony you just posted. woo me with science Sep 2012 #135

Wrong again. Summer Hathaway Sep 2012 #152

ROTFLMAO! n/t Egalitarian Thug Sep 2012 #157

Ah, the trusty ol' Label-maker Summer Hathaway Sep 2012 #136

Well, when it's the goal of the Third Way and their ilk woo me with science Sep 2012 #137

You seem to honestly believe Summer Hathaway Sep 2012 #145

Silly DUer. That's not *ever* how it works. Marr Sep 2012 #115

I'm too busy working elections JNelson6563 Sep 2012 #116

As soon as he's elected, we should get on him about it. Now, we should give him as many... porphyrian Sep 2012 #123

I love posts like this mathematic Sep 2012 #127

He's not going to do that.. sendero Sep 2012 #131

Good thing President Obama is not a Defeatist! YAY! Cha Sep 2012 #139

Yep. blue neen Sep 2012 #143

Yeah, Discouragement, Discouragement, Discouragement... Cha Sep 2012 #146

Yep. He's talking like one again now, but just wait. woo me with science Sep 2012 #141

Were you high or on psychopharmaceuticals when you posted this? coldwaterintheface Sep 2012 #149