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wnylib

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53. You'd have to have known my
Wed Oct 14, 2020, 12:07 PM
Oct 2020

ex mother-in-law to understand her view. I think she believed herself to be more Catholic than the pope.

Since I am not Catholic, I don't know what the church's position was at that time (1970) regarding loss of a fetus or even an infant without baptism. Or what their position would be on that today.

My ex and I were married by a justice of the peace to avoid the religious issue with the families. (Mine is Protestant.) But his mother called almost daily to say we were "living in sin" for not being married by a priest. Finally, to make peace, we agreed to a ceremony in the chapel of a Catholic church. Had to get a dispensation for him to marry a non-Catholic, go to the pre marriage classes, and I had to change my witness. A Jewish friend and her Catholic boyfriend were our witnesses for the JP wedding. My witness had to be Christian, preferrably Catholic, for the church wedding, which took place 3 months after the JP one. His family refused to acknowledge the date of the JP wedding as our anniversary. They made a point of
ignoring it and inviting us out to celebrate on the anniversary date of the church ceremony.

Five years later we were divorced, in a civil court. Since that was forbidden, I'm sure they considered me a bigamist when I remarried a few years later.

WTF-- IVF is the same as murder? [View all] RainCaster Oct 2020 OP
K&R! SheltieLover Oct 2020 #1
Call every single republican with this fact vapor2 Oct 2020 #2
They do...I called 12 today, all GOP. BigmanPigman Oct 2020 #17
YES! Go to INDIVISIBLE! calimary Oct 2020 #29
call their in state offices. yellowdogintexas Oct 2020 #35
Actually, I prefer to leave a message since they tally all the calls, BigmanPigman Oct 2020 #38
EXCELLENT advice as they usually ask if you live in the senator's district vapor2 Oct 2020 #54
The best idea I got is from a person at a protest 3 or 4 BigmanPigman Oct 2020 #56
EXCELLENT advice as they usually ask if you live in the senator's district vapor2 Oct 2020 #55
Thanks for the phone numbers BP. I just called all from my cell and left a messge. Same as you, c-rational Oct 2020 #51
Fantastic! Thank you so much! BigmanPigman Oct 2020 #61
thanks for sharing! vapor2 Oct 2020 #57
I hope more and more people call. BigmanPigman Oct 2020 #62
Call every single republican with this fact vapor2 Oct 2020 #3
The Judge is wrong; IVF is not the same as murder. CaliforniaPeggy Oct 2020 #4
I eat eggs every week and have never thought I was killing chickens by doing so. KS Toronado Oct 2020 #14
Nope! You're most likely eating unfertilized eggs. CaliforniaPeggy Oct 2020 #22
Most chicken eggs I eat are fertilized. GulfCoast66 Oct 2020 #28
I've eaten fertilized chicken eggs too, and they are good! CaliforniaPeggy Oct 2020 #32
nah. if the hens dont sit on them they dont progress. and mostly they dont. ihas2stinkyfeet Oct 2020 #46
It's the unused fertilized embryos that are murdered. Phoenix61 Oct 2020 #5
That's the philosophy gratuitous Oct 2020 #7
I don't think she actually believes it at all. Phoenix61 Oct 2020 #24
Roe v. Wade is conditioned on viability. joshcryer Oct 2020 #34
She is Roman Catholic so it's very likely wnylib Oct 2020 #44
Oh geez Dorian Gray Oct 2020 #48
I am not Catholic so I had not heard wnylib Oct 2020 #49
Its odd to think that God's grace towards any form of life is dependent upon a human ritual. milestogo Oct 2020 #50
You'd have to have known my wnylib Oct 2020 #53
I know plenty of people Dorian Gray Oct 2020 #60
Same here. I have NEVER heard of any of this stuff. shrike3 Oct 2020 #59
I'm a cradle Catholic and was not taught, nor have I ever heard of anyone being taught,to pray over shrike3 Oct 2020 #58
As I said in another post, my former wnylib Oct 2020 #63
She sounds like a nut. My sympathies. Yikes. n/t shrike3 Oct 2020 #64
I thought we put those in the pods underpants Oct 2020 #8
Best answer yet. nt Phoenix61 Oct 2020 #25
She has no clue how science or medicine works RainCaster Oct 2020 #11
they also believe that many forms of contraception lapfog_1 Oct 2020 #6
OH YOU BETTER damn well believe she will vote to overturn Griswold v Connecticut AZ8theist Oct 2020 #30
Once Roe is overturned they will come after contraception Captain Zero Oct 2020 #39
This is how the fetus fetishists make themselves look the stupidest Warpy Oct 2020 #9
Why hasn't anyone asked her about Trump's stem cell treatment for Covid-19? world wide wally Oct 2020 #10
+1000 Celerity Oct 2020 #20
Ask her how many of these embryos are she and her church willing to adopt? keithbvadu2 Oct 2020 #12
Answer: ZERO. ABSOLUTE FUCKING ZERO. AZ8theist Oct 2020 #31
You better believe that one. joshcryer Oct 2020 #36
She is fucked up. Not just a cult mentality, but sociopathic. 58Sunliner Oct 2020 #13
Judge Barrett is a real life Serena Joy. sarcasmo Oct 2020 #15
Yep Solly Mack Oct 2020 #18
Maddow's show was the first time I heard of this too. BigmanPigman Oct 2020 #16
She is worse than tRump prowler67 Oct 2020 #19
True! BigmanPigman Oct 2020 #23
Surely this is not the first time you've heard this. Ms. Toad Oct 2020 #21
So what will have to be done with the unused embryos to avoid murder charges?? ASK HER THAT. Captain Zero Oct 2020 #40
In their world view, they would be made available for adoption Ms. Toad Oct 2020 #43
RainCaster....When I heard that I said the Upthevibe Oct 2020 #26
She's warped like the rest of those who believe that crap. Solly Mack Oct 2020 #27
She's a zygote worshiper. Actual children? Not so much. nt SunSeeker Oct 2020 #33
reminds me of this couple standing on the corner by the grocery store the other day orleans Oct 2020 #41
Does She See A Vasectomy As Murder Too DallasNE Oct 2020 #37
In their view, it is a human life at the moment of fertilization Ms. Toad Oct 2020 #42
She's insane. GeorgeGist Oct 2020 #45
Does that mean the Obama daughters shouldn't have been born? Boomerproud Oct 2020 #47
I'm surprised anyone is surprised by this. maxsolomon Oct 2020 #52
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