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In reply to the discussion: The universe is much bigger than big [View all]lumberjack_jeff
(33,224 posts)94. I'm not operating on belief. You are.
The existence of extraterrestrial life is a plausible theory that deserves investigation.
So far, that investigation hasn't turned up anything. This fact doesn't, by any stretch of the imagination, give more credence to the belief.
You're reminding me of this book.
Festinger stated that five conditions must be present if someone is to become a more fervent believer after a failure or disconfirmation:
A belief must be held with deep conviction and it must have some relevance to action, that is, to what the believer does or how he behaves.
The person holding the belief must have committed himself to it; that is, for the sake of his belief, he must have taken some important action that is difficult to undo. In general, the more important such actions are, and the more difficult they are to undo, the greater is the individual's commitment to the belief.
The belief must be sufficiently specific and sufficiently concerned with the real world so that events may unequivocally refute the belief.
Such undeniable disconfirmatory evidence must occur and must be recognized by the individual holding the belief.
The individual believer must have social support. It is unlikely that one isolated believer could withstand the kind of disconfirming evidence that has been specified. If, however, the believer is a member of a group of convinced persons who can support one another, the belief may be maintained and the believers may attempt to proselytize or persuade nonmembers that the belief is correct.
A belief must be held with deep conviction and it must have some relevance to action, that is, to what the believer does or how he behaves.
The person holding the belief must have committed himself to it; that is, for the sake of his belief, he must have taken some important action that is difficult to undo. In general, the more important such actions are, and the more difficult they are to undo, the greater is the individual's commitment to the belief.
The belief must be sufficiently specific and sufficiently concerned with the real world so that events may unequivocally refute the belief.
Such undeniable disconfirmatory evidence must occur and must be recognized by the individual holding the belief.
The individual believer must have social support. It is unlikely that one isolated believer could withstand the kind of disconfirming evidence that has been specified. If, however, the believer is a member of a group of convinced persons who can support one another, the belief may be maintained and the believers may attempt to proselytize or persuade nonmembers that the belief is correct.
I get that it's frustrating and difficult to create and defend a scientific-sounding worldview based on magic, but really, there's no call to insult *my* intelligence.
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I like to look up at night and think about all the photons from the Universe falling on my retina.
tridim
Sep 2012
#1
Well yea, our big bang (or whatever it is) is still banging. So it's happening now.
tridim
Sep 2012
#6
Yes. Except there are no infinities, and if there were we could not observe them.
bemildred
Sep 2012
#42
I'd be interested to get your take on one of my latest essays (reposted here):
coalition_unwilling
Sep 2012
#102
Of course it's just a belief. If it wasn't, we wouldn't be having this conversation.
EOTE
Sep 2012
#25
Question number one isn't really a question, it's a statement and a specious one at that.
EOTE
Sep 2012
#32
a) they were answers to your questions. b) "specious" means plausible-looking falsehood.
lumberjack_jeff
Sep 2012
#59
It's a baseline assumption that flies completely in the face of all probability.
eqfan592
Sep 2012
#71
Your belief is that advanced technological civilizations would be using our technology which is in
EOTE
Sep 2012
#92
When I was in high school, I used to stare up at the night sky and ponder...
Speck Tater
Sep 2012
#38
You hated social studies class but yet here you are on DU. There's an irony
coalition_unwilling
Sep 2012
#103
The only plausible reason I can think of why a young person like you would coume to hate
coalition_unwilling
Sep 2012
#112
I am so sorry. That regurgitation of trivia is so NOT what history (as
coalition_unwilling
Oct 2012
#117
In the 1960s, this type of history (known variously as 'Social History') became
coalition_unwilling
Oct 2012
#120
What WE think of as "The Universe" is just a tiny atom in the fingernail of a giant. n/t
cherokeeprogressive
Sep 2012
#55