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jmowreader

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29. They want you to live a joyless life

Sun Oct 18, 2020, 09:26 AM

Oct 2020

Some of your more extreme Christians believe you should forsake joy in your earthly existence because only a person who has never experienced joy will be allowed to enter Heaven.

Since sex is a joyful thing, it should only be used for procreation. (Think of the Protestant woman in Monty Python’s The Meaning of Life who had two children and only had sex twice, or the scene in The Road to Wellville where John Harvey Kellogg explained that any use of sexual organs for purposes other than procreation was a sin.) The availability of methods to terminate or prevent pregnancy must therefore be eliminated; their theory is that you must be punished for seeking pleasure.

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Abortion: what is really the issue? [View all] canetoad Oct 2020 OP

Abortion is a power issue. It's not about... WePurrsevere Oct 2020 #1

Yep. Most everything in the Boble supports abortion. Very little "pro-forced birth." TheBlackAdder Oct 2020 #21

You forgot cannon fodder mercuryblues Oct 2020 #40

Dang. I forgot that one. TheBlackAdder Oct 2020 #41

Yes, that lines up with what I've learned. I know we still have ... WePurrsevere Oct 2020 #55

To me it's regarding women as "carriers" Freddie Oct 2020 #2

In the natural state, the female holds the reproductive power nuxvomica Oct 2020 #3

You nailed it! SheltieLover Oct 2020 #9

If it was really about moral opposition to abortion then these ResistantAmerican17 Oct 2020 #4

Someone asked some Republicans about paying a child stippend for those pregnant during COVID. . . TheBlackAdder Oct 2020 #22

The apple in the garden of Eden represented knowledge. That's what they're against Walleye Oct 2020 #5

Just a slight addition.... Mossfern Oct 2020 #37

Convincing people that Republicans are the moral party. betsuni Oct 2020 #6

... Solly Mack Oct 2020 #7

Absolutely! SheltieLover Oct 2020 #10

That is the bottom line of it all. Solly Mack Oct 2020 #47

Sure does & only caucasian men are allow to have it SheltieLover Oct 2020 #53

You nailed it, Solly Mack! Ohiogal Oct 2020 #19

Thanks Solly Mack Oct 2020 #48

+1 uponit7771 Oct 2020 #23

Excellent post! Turin_C3PO Oct 2020 #32

I'll tell you a secret. Solly Mack Oct 2020 #49

EXCELLENT analysis! not_the_one Oct 2020 #42

I both get and don't get the mindset. Solly Mack Oct 2020 #51

Great post! Poiuyt Oct 2020 #46

Thank you. Solly Mack Oct 2020 #52

The superstitious think there's a "spirit" in the embryo. Buckeye_Democrat Oct 2020 #8

According to Jewish tradition Mossfern Oct 2020 #39

The religious "tenets" re: abortion are not based on logic, except perhaps for the political gains hlthe2b Oct 2020 #11

Yep, it was a BS issue for them and it came about... Buckeye_Democrat Oct 2020 #16

Weyrich. jmowreader Oct 2020 #27

typo... thanks hlthe2b Oct 2020 #28

Yep, it's all about subjugation--which is why they're packing the courts. GoCubsGo Oct 2020 #12

Abortion and birth control are really about sex-without-responsibility no_hypocrisy Oct 2020 #13

Simple, really DeminPennswoods Oct 2020 #14

I struggle with why the anti-choicers get so worked up over abortion Buckeyeblue Oct 2020 #15

Theologically, it is all about "ensoulment" -- the moment that the fetus receives a "soul" Klaralven Oct 2020 #17

I find it always freaks people out when I point out there are directions in the Bible. Gore1FL Oct 2020 #18

And honestly I always saw it as chicanery.... moriah Oct 2020 #25

evolutionary psychology. it is the prime directive to pass on that packet of dna. mopinko Oct 2020 #20

It's mostly about religion, which means it makes no fucking sense. Goodheart Oct 2020 #24

It's all about control Luciferous Oct 2020 #26

They want you to live a joyless life jmowreader Oct 2020 #29

Like all the other GOP hard-line stands, it's bait and switch, and that's why it's nonsense Mr. Ected Oct 2020 #30

Good post, good responses. Delmette2.0 Oct 2020 #31

It's a halo to stick over their heads while railing against feminism JHB Oct 2020 #33

Eh, you're forgetting the part about sex being a voluntary act Azathoth Oct 2020 #34

Great post cane, and many great responses. panader0 Oct 2020 #35

1/3 biology (OP); 1/3 social justice (below); 1/3 legalistic. Mine sum. UTUSN Oct 2020 #36

Yes. My Catholic Church wants married adults to breed like rabbits. KWR65 Oct 2020 #38

There should be a law if abortion becomes illegal, rownesheck Oct 2020 #43

"How the Catholic Church came to oppose birth control" - an article from 2018 OnDoutside Oct 2020 #44

Control of women with a side dose of male fragility Retrograde Oct 2020 #45

Telling that trump got therapy for Covid that contained fetal tissue and didn't hear one complaint spanone Oct 2020 #50

The issue is control of women. KentuckyWoman Oct 2020 #54