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not_the_one

(2,227 posts)
42. EXCELLENT analysis!
Sun Oct 18, 2020, 01:22 PM
Oct 2020

And the source of all the division? In your words, Right-wing religious wackadoodles. An extremely accurate, I might add, depiction of those in question.

The offending word in that phrase is not "wackadoodles". It is "religious".

Religions are nothing more than fairy tales created to explain which is, at the time, un-explainable. And even fairy tales have an agenda.

Science and logic should be the deciding factors. Scientifically, the only agenda is "out of chaos comes order". The universe, in its infinite age, seems to follow that path. Logically is where religion steps in and takes us down the rabbit hole. Apparently humankind is susceptible to gross manipulation of science, based on a totally agenda oriented logic, at which point it actually becomes mostly devoid of logic, and is based almost exclusively on agenda.

Our problem is we can't grasp infinity (of time, or distance). So we resort to fairy tales. One of twentieth centuries greatest philosophers, Marilyn Manson , said, "God is a number we can not count to..."

The bible itself says it is nothing more than a fairy tale.

IN THE BEGINNING... was creation. Time never began, therefore there could never have been a "creation".

AT THE END OF TIME... we will all be judged according to the guidelines of the fairy tale. Time will never end, so there will never be a "judgment".

For the believers? All for naught. Tots and pears...

The whole idea of control over women's bodies is based on a religious tenet that is false, illogical, and certainly NOT scientific.

The female body is responsible for (once an accidental sperm has been utilized) the gestation of the egg/embryo, nurturing it to birth, then responsible for feeding the child so it doesn't die. The male is relevant ONLY as an accidental occurrence. And more than likely, the LAST thing on said male's mind was to impregnate an egg.

RELIGIOUS MEN of the "right-wing religious wackadoodles" persuasion can't handle the downgrade to accidental occurrence. So there MUST be an agenda that gives control back to THEM. Biblical marriage, where the women gives up her family (a form of isolation) and cleaves to his (as his property), gives up her last name to take his, takes a subservient position in the relationship which allows HIM to make all the decisions, does just that. It was originally a business arrangement. In recent years that justification was adjusted (in most religious cultures) to account for "love".

Sadly, RELIGIOUS WOMEN of the "right-wing religious wackadoodles" persuasion, succumbed to this twisted agenda, becoming willful and voluntary slaves to their earthly masters (husbands), who were acting on the commands of THE heavenly master, who ALSO had a penis (GAWD). Not to digress, but if humans are made in God's own image, and humans consist of male and female, then God is a hermaphrodite. I'm just sayin'...

I believe the REAL purpose for marriage was access to sex on demand. The wife is to do her wifely duties and submit. Either agreeably, or not...

Modern women have rejected being controlled, and to do so ultimately is to control their OWN timeline of when to, or when to NOT, have a child. That is a threat to everything the religious right has manipulated into being acceptable societal behavior.

If we can't eliminate the source of the agendas, in their entirety, we must at least give the individual woman the right to control their own body.

It is both scientific and logical. Society would, in my not so humble opinion, be much the better for it.





Abortion is a power issue. It's not about... WePurrsevere Oct 2020 #1
Yep. Most everything in the Boble supports abortion. Very little "pro-forced birth." TheBlackAdder Oct 2020 #21
You forgot cannon fodder mercuryblues Oct 2020 #40
Dang. I forgot that one. TheBlackAdder Oct 2020 #41
Yes, that lines up with what I've learned. I know we still have ... WePurrsevere Oct 2020 #55
To me it's regarding women as "carriers" Freddie Oct 2020 #2
In the natural state, the female holds the reproductive power nuxvomica Oct 2020 #3
You nailed it! SheltieLover Oct 2020 #9
If it was really about moral opposition to abortion then these ResistantAmerican17 Oct 2020 #4
Someone asked some Republicans about paying a child stippend for those pregnant during COVID. . . TheBlackAdder Oct 2020 #22
The apple in the garden of Eden represented knowledge. That's what they're against Walleye Oct 2020 #5
Just a slight addition.... Mossfern Oct 2020 #37
Convincing people that Republicans are the moral party. betsuni Oct 2020 #6
... Solly Mack Oct 2020 #7
Absolutely! SheltieLover Oct 2020 #10
That is the bottom line of it all. Solly Mack Oct 2020 #47
Sure does & only caucasian men are allow to have it SheltieLover Oct 2020 #53
You nailed it, Solly Mack! Ohiogal Oct 2020 #19
Thanks Solly Mack Oct 2020 #48
+1 uponit7771 Oct 2020 #23
Excellent post! Turin_C3PO Oct 2020 #32
I'll tell you a secret. Solly Mack Oct 2020 #49
EXCELLENT analysis! not_the_one Oct 2020 #42
I both get and don't get the mindset. Solly Mack Oct 2020 #51
Great post! Poiuyt Oct 2020 #46
Thank you. Solly Mack Oct 2020 #52
The superstitious think there's a "spirit" in the embryo. Buckeye_Democrat Oct 2020 #8
According to Jewish tradition Mossfern Oct 2020 #39
The religious "tenets" re: abortion are not based on logic, except perhaps for the political gains hlthe2b Oct 2020 #11
Yep, it was a BS issue for them and it came about... Buckeye_Democrat Oct 2020 #16
Weyrich. jmowreader Oct 2020 #27
typo... thanks hlthe2b Oct 2020 #28
Yep, it's all about subjugation--which is why they're packing the courts. GoCubsGo Oct 2020 #12
Abortion and birth control are really about sex-without-responsibility no_hypocrisy Oct 2020 #13
Simple, really DeminPennswoods Oct 2020 #14
I struggle with why the anti-choicers get so worked up over abortion Buckeyeblue Oct 2020 #15
Theologically, it is all about "ensoulment" -- the moment that the fetus receives a "soul" Klaralven Oct 2020 #17
I find it always freaks people out when I point out there are directions in the Bible. Gore1FL Oct 2020 #18
And honestly I always saw it as chicanery.... moriah Oct 2020 #25
evolutionary psychology. it is the prime directive to pass on that packet of dna. mopinko Oct 2020 #20
It's mostly about religion, which means it makes no fucking sense. Goodheart Oct 2020 #24
It's all about control Luciferous Oct 2020 #26
They want you to live a joyless life jmowreader Oct 2020 #29
Like all the other GOP hard-line stands, it's bait and switch, and that's why it's nonsense Mr. Ected Oct 2020 #30
Good post, good responses. Delmette2.0 Oct 2020 #31
It's a halo to stick over their heads while railing against feminism JHB Oct 2020 #33
Eh, you're forgetting the part about sex being a voluntary act Azathoth Oct 2020 #34
Great post cane, and many great responses. panader0 Oct 2020 #35
1/3 biology (OP); 1/3 social justice (below); 1/3 legalistic. Mine sum. UTUSN Oct 2020 #36
Yes. My Catholic Church wants married adults to breed like rabbits. KWR65 Oct 2020 #38
There should be a law if abortion becomes illegal, rownesheck Oct 2020 #43
"How the Catholic Church came to oppose birth control" - an article from 2018 OnDoutside Oct 2020 #44
Control of women with a side dose of male fragility Retrograde Oct 2020 #45
Telling that trump got therapy for Covid that contained fetal tissue and didn't hear one complaint spanone Oct 2020 #50
The issue is control of women. KentuckyWoman Oct 2020 #54
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