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ProfessorGAC

(65,010 posts)
22. I Know All That
Sun Oct 18, 2020, 04:26 PM
Oct 2020

My point was about the lack of a situation where someone is under leveraged.
I used Apple as an example of a company that carried scads of cash and no debt for years.
They acquired debt to supplant cash which they invested externally because rates were so low, and cash was underperforming.
This was not about the details of financial statements. You're hanging onto a detail which is merely tangential to the actual point.
Besides, their equity declaration is an accounting trick. It does not reflect the true equity value, or is even close.
They have 17.01 billion shares outstanding at $119.02 per share. That's not equity of $90 something billion.
For highly successful large companies market cap is 8 to 10 times the shares OS * price. This matches that.

Whaaad? Do Us A Favor And Let Us Loan You Money???...nt global1 Oct 2020 #1
Sounds like money laundering. nt coti Oct 2020 #4
Exactly. Lock him up. Oct 2020 #23
Isn't that what all genius business men do? /s PaulRevere08 Oct 2020 #2
So...he admitted to money laundering? mahina Oct 2020 #3
Back To "Under Leveraged" ProfessorGAC Oct 2020 #6
Thank you for that explanation. SergeStorms Oct 2020 #7
And theres no way he's got 10B in real assets, so I wonder what his REAL debt is?? oldsoftie Oct 2020 #8
Downgraded Twice ProfessorGAC Oct 2020 #9
Thats still a lot higher than Forbes had him. I didnt think it was over 3B. nt oldsoftie Oct 2020 #11
You're Right ProfessorGAC Oct 2020 #12
I agree. And his next source of massive funds will be his "base". oldsoftie Oct 2020 #13
Apple's shareholder equity was about $72 billion on its latest 10Q Klaralven Oct 2020 #14
Their Market Cap Is $2.06Trillion, As of Friday ProfessorGAC Oct 2020 #18
Leverage is usually defined by the Debt-to-Equity Ratio, which doesn't involve Market Cap Klaralven Oct 2020 #21
I Know All That ProfessorGAC Oct 2020 #22
Oooh. You sound like someone who knows what's going on PCIntern Oct 2020 #16
And yet no US banks would lend him money malaise Oct 2020 #5
Do us a favor...Vlad wants us to lend you money. lonely bird Oct 2020 #10
These institutions Trump speaks of... jmowreader Oct 2020 #15
If they have his returns and have stated his personal debt, Firestorm49 Oct 2020 #17
K&R UTUSN Oct 2020 #19
Borrowing for business is one thing. NoRoadUntravelled Oct 2020 #20
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