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grantcart

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Sun Oct 18, 2020, 07:59 PM Oct 2020

Early Voting Bombshell Results [View all]

Watching Andrea Mitchell on Friday I was irritated by her rather smug response when a number of analysts predicted that there would be record shattering numbers out over the weekend. One of the symptoms of diabetes 2 folks is that we get irritated. One of the symptoms of watching Andrea Mitchell is that you will get irritated.

She asked, "but isn't it the case as in the past when Democrats get enthused they vote early but all they are doing is voting early and cannibalizing the election day votes"?

One of the analysts responded, "that has been a pattern in the past but we are seeing two things; Democratic early voting is up 600% over 2016, which was a high number but, even more significantly, states that track party affiliation of early voting are showing 15% to 20% of the Democratic votes to date are from people who did not vote in 2016".

Ms. Mitchell looked at the camera in a look that could only be described as "gob smacked".

Here are two articles that are confirming the basic facts:

https://www.npr.org/2020/10/18/924182086/early-voting-analysis-historic-turnout-drives-long-lines-administrative-errors

https://www.axios.com/early-voting-2020-election-biden-trump-23599e0c-c8c9-4e4d-b4fb-e6a221478a13.html


Here are some of the consensus projections.

So far 25 million votes have been cast versus 3 million at the same time in 2016.

They are projecting that 53% of the votes are Democratic, 36% Republican and 11% non affiliated. If we use the 2:1 ratio that poles are showing that independent voters are supporting Biden then the voting would be about 60% Biden 40% Trump.

But here is the most stunning fact: Between 15 and 20 percent of the Democratic vote are voters that did not vote in 2016. Only 7% of the Republican votes are voters that did not vote in 2016, and it should be safe to assume that some of those voters are Lincoln Project Republicans who didn't like Trump then, didn't like Trump now but like Biden more than Clinton. I know a few of those Republicans who passed in 2016 but have already voted for Biden.

Assuming that all of the new Democratic voters are voting for Biden and generously assuming that all of the new Republican voters are voting for Trump, then we can extrapolate the following:

Additional Democratic voters that did not vote in 2016 but have already voted:

2 million new Democratic Votes

Additional Republican voters that did not vote in 2016 but have already voted:

600,000

Assuming that the independents are split 50/50 (and they most likely are not) the current vote appears to be

Biden 15 million
Trump 10 million


This is a fantastic start.

Some other key take aways:



Notably, African American voters make up a larger share of early voters than in 2016. More than six times as many African American voters have voted early this year than had at the same point in the last presidential election, according to TargetSmart.





Polling data have indicated for months that Democrats have intended to vote earlier at much higher rates than Republicans, who were reacting to President Trump's near-constant false claims that voting by mail would lead to widespread fraud.





But lines have been the exception across the country overall, not the rule. And there's also optimism that precincts that have struggled with lines will start to see them ease as early voting continues.

Gwinnett County, Ga., for instance, was reporting lengthy waits this past week at a number of precincts, but by Friday afternoon, the county's online wait tracker showed no wait longer than 90 minutes.





“In North Carolina, nearly 1 in 5 ballots cast so far come from those who didn’t vote in 2016," said Greg Speed, president of America Votes.
24.9 million ballots have already been cast. In key states like Florida, Minnesota, Wisconsin, Michigan, Georgia and Iowa, more than a quarter of the total number of ballots that were cast in 2016 have already been received.





59% of first-time voters who already cast ballots in Pennsylvania are registered Democrats, compared to the just 15% who are registered Republicans. Democratic first-time voters were just barely outvoting Republicans (40% to 38%) at this point in 2016.
In Florida, registered Democrats' lead over registered Republicans among first-time voters has grown by nearly 10 percentage points compared to 2016.





"I can't help but look at this data with the lens of Trump telling Republicans so consistently that vote-by-mail is a scam," Josh Mendelsohn, CEO of Michael Bloomberg's data firm Hawkfish, told Axios. "That distrust — it bears out in this data."



Bottom line is that Trump's bluster has motivated Democratic voters like no one else could, Dems that voted and those that sat home in 2016 are jamming the early voting process.




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Early Voting Bombshell Results [View all] grantcart Oct 2020 OP
Thanks For Sorting That Out, Sir The Magistrate Oct 2020 #1
poles cf Poles kiri Oct 2020 #24
Oh, Mitchell drives me crazy and I'm not diabetic, so I think it's her! Laffy Kat Oct 2020 #2
She always seem to be upset when repukes are being attacked and want to defend them kimbutgar Oct 2020 #9
She acts as if she's a repuke herself by her reactions ailsagirl Oct 2020 #40
Republicans WILL show up in force. Trust me, I'm from FL and it happens all the time! KEEP VOTING! OrlandoDem2 Oct 2020 #3
So Seniors DownriverDem Oct 2020 #54
Mrs. Greenspan is still here? central scrutinizer Oct 2020 #4
She was born on October 30 which is known as Devil's night. tavernier Oct 2020 #35
Love that saying-- most relevant here!! ailsagirl Oct 2020 #41
Like Biden said in NC today, "How many chairs were empty at the dining room table last night?" Budi Oct 2020 #5
I've been rooting for the non-affiliated numbers Awsi Dooger Oct 2020 #6
Kick dalton99a Oct 2020 #7
type 1 here, and right there w ya. mopinko Oct 2020 #8
I bet there will be a record turnout Mr.Bill Oct 2020 #10
Good solid numbers! BannonsLiver Oct 2020 #11
Excellent extrapolation, and please tell Republicans they don't have to vote because bucolic_frolic Oct 2020 #12
Here is a Link for the Site Many Reporters and Others are Using for Early Vote Data Indykatie Oct 2020 #13
COVID in Texas kansasobama Oct 2020 #16
Just means the suppression is working there. Tommymac Oct 2020 #17
I think there are more than one polling places in Harris county, but... Trueblue Texan Oct 2020 #19
That's false. LisaL Oct 2020 #26
8th generation Texan here.... if they try to keep Texans from voting, it will only make Texans BComplex Oct 2020 #49
Texas doesn't actually report early votes by party registration Chasing Dreams Oct 2020 #20
I Hope It Is Bad Modelling - Even So the Gap Is Much Bigger Than I expected n/t Indykatie Oct 2020 #27
Tks grantcart Oct 2020 #23
Is this even legit? vercetti2021 Oct 2020 #33
Remember the Stories About the GOP Registering So Many More New Voters then Dems in PA? Indykatie Oct 2020 #14
Enthusiasm is off the charts on our side Dopers_Greed Oct 2020 #15
I don't see enough in Michigan kansasobama Oct 2020 #18
Not sure what data you're looking at. Enthusiasm here is high. catbyte Oct 2020 #34
P.S. WE don't have early voting here in Michigan. catbyte Oct 2020 #36
+1, same here in MO; there's no early in person voting and I don't trust my vote to poll watchers uponit7771 Oct 2020 #47
+1 uponit7771 Oct 2020 #46
My mom and I voted today. Rizen Oct 2020 #21
I have a special disgust for Andrea Mitchell... Upthevibe Oct 2020 #22
+1 uponit7771 Oct 2020 #48
I guess she thought that people have been standing Rice4VP Oct 2020 #25
K and R panader0 Oct 2020 #28
This is very encouraging. NoRoadUntravelled Oct 2020 #29
In light of having to tolerate McConnell's actions and Twitler's non-mandate... SleeplessinSoCal Oct 2020 #30
Between 15 and 20 percent of the Democratic vote are voters that did not vote in '16 hellno45 Oct 2020 #31
Some were not 18 grantcart Oct 2020 #38
Thank you for all that. PoindexterOglethorpe Oct 2020 #32
Thanks! Baked Potato Oct 2020 #37
"Cannibalizing the election day votes"??? Retrograde Oct 2020 #39
I don't like this term either. LisaL Oct 2020 #42
The turd is going to use election day votes to declare his win. not_the_one Oct 2020 #43
That's not what she meant. LisaL Oct 2020 #44
it simply means not to get excited about an increase in early voting if it doesn't grantcart Oct 2020 #45
"six times as many African American voters have voted early this year " lindysalsagal Oct 2020 #50
Agreed padah513 Oct 2020 #51
My entire family has voted and all of us went straight blue. PatrickforO Oct 2020 #52
TY for the report, grant! andrea mitchell Cha Oct 2020 #53
Nearly everyone I know has already voted for Joe and Kamala. warmfeet Oct 2020 #55
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