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In reply to the discussion: If we give him a MANDATE, he'd better USE IT. [View all]tarheelsunc
(2,117 posts)140. Eight years of slightly left is better than four years of radically left and four years of repeals
In the long run, this strategy will benefit the liberal agenda the best, as the nation overall is still quite conservative and liberal progress needs to be slow enough so that people can grow accustomed to it. If you try to go all in too soon, people will rebel and move to the other side (something like what happened in 2010 amid health care reform). If Obama went full liberal in his first 4 years and demanded abortion rights, forced a gay marriage law into Congress and such, huge amounts of people would vote straight-ticket Republican and all of those would be gone within a month of inauguration day.
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don't think a hard left is going to come from Obama, no matter the mandate
northoftheborder
Sep 2012
#2
He could have pressed the GOP MUCH harder many times. He played it safe for reelection.
BlueStreak
Sep 2012
#102
Eight years of slightly left is better than four years of radically left and four years of repeals
tarheelsunc
Sep 2012
#140
Most people don't know any community organizers. My pt was that Obama did not deceive anyone.
Honeycombe8
Sep 2012
#154
I give that 0% chance of happening. Pres. Obama simply loves the Patriot Act. nt
limpyhobbler
Sep 2012
#28
Yep, that's what you are going to say about my whole list. We're fucked. nm
rhett o rick
Sep 2012
#52
I hate to be a downer, but they will. Those in the ruling class live by different rules. nm
rhett o rick
Sep 2012
#49
Not everything. He can change the focus from persecuting marijuana sales to
rhett o rick
Sep 2012
#25
I don't think that's likely. Bankers donate more money to campaigns than potheads.
Selatius
Sep 2012
#70
Insinuation by question. Why dont you tell us in the form of a statement instead of question.
rhett o rick
Sep 2012
#93
There are a few, very few. Wall Street campaign donations - 10-90 Obama-Romney.
pampango
Sep 2012
#117
Which raises the question of just who does he work for, the people or the party? n/t
Egalitarian Thug
Sep 2012
#94
been there. He did not use the mandate. He literally made the left leave the room. over and over.
robinlynne
Sep 2012
#11
i think the dynamic changes if we actually congres both ends of pennsylvania avenue
unblock
Sep 2012
#23
who cares what the right says. single payer should have been ON THE TABLE. then we might have a
robinlynne
Sep 2012
#29
...and that equal same thing we had last time!!!!! We need FILIBUSTER proof senate, plesae people
uponit7771
Sep 2012
#21
They actually never filibuster. the Dems just accept the idea that they will.
robinlynne
Sep 2012
#59
technically, a filibuster is ANY delaying tactic. talking endlessly is merely the most famous way.
unblock
Sep 2012
#104
I really hope we don't have a repeat of the nonsense we went through a few years ago
Cary
Sep 2012
#14
Private insurance mandate without a Public Option. That was the biggest kick, imho
Selatius
Sep 2012
#77
At the very least, the media can stop pretending that this is a conservative country..
girl gone mad
Sep 2012
#15
He is unilaterally murdering people in Pakistan. There is no declaration of war with Pakistan,
Egalitarian Thug
Sep 2012
#95
None of this wishful thinking matters if we don't get the House and retain the Senate
Liberal_Stalwart71
Sep 2012
#16
IF you REALLY want him to "use it" then get him a filibuster proof congress!!!!!!!!!!
uponit7771
Sep 2012
#17
I think that the right will use "the Fear of a Obama mandate" to make sure that all Fox News watchin
jorno67
Sep 2012
#27
+ 1000. This is the exact correct approach in our government. Slow and steady
BlueCaliDem
Sep 2012
#42
Which direction have we been slowly and steadily moving in over the last 30 years?
Bonobo
Sep 2012
#74
With recognition of how hard this is, I still want some progressive with the delivered pragmatics.
leveymg
Sep 2012
#148
In the USA, the only real mandate comes with 60 or more Senators and control of the House nt.
andym
Sep 2012
#34
Harry Reid has been the majority leader of the Senate for 9 of the last 11 years. Does the phrase
Egalitarian Thug
Sep 2012
#98
That's why it's so hard to be a Democrat. Being a republican is easy, there's no ambiguity there.
Egalitarian Thug
Sep 2012
#119
Not really. He didn't win by a landslide. But if you're talking about having both houses of Congress
Honeycombe8
Sep 2012
#62
We'd all love that, and it'd be the right thing. But it will never ever happen in the 2nd term.
Honeycombe8
Sep 2012
#64
Oh, I don't dare think landslide. It would be great...but I'm a'feared of being jinxed.
Honeycombe8
Sep 2012
#58
To all the people saying such a thing is impossible without a perfect senate and congress takeover..
Bonobo
Sep 2012
#72
There is no solution that would be called easy. Nothing that could be done in one lifetime.
Selatius
Sep 2012
#86
As soon as he's elected, we should get on him about it. Now, we should give him as many...
porphyrian
Sep 2012
#123