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Showing Original Post only (View all)Greenwald links to pieces arguing the validity of citing Ron Paul's views, and more [View all]
http://twitter.com/ggreenwaldHere is the most recent:
Finally, on the Paul debate: former ACLU Board Member Wendy Kaminer: http://is.gd/H5QJAW
From the link:
If Voters Cared About Liberty, Ron Paul Would Be the Frontrunner
His platform has some serious flaws, but Paul is the only candidate standing up for individual liberties.
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You don't have to overlook or make excuses for Paul's weaknesses on civil rights or his apparent courting of virulent right-wing extremists to appreciate and applaud his support for liberty, where it arguably matters most. After all, Paul poses no threat to racial and religious tolerance, civil rights, or entitlements; he has virtually no chance of becoming president and his own alleged intolerance is, to say the least, unpopular. (It demonstrates the declining respectability of overt bigotry.) But he has an opportunity to organize and perhaps empower voters who oppose the Bush/Obama security state. If only that were a priority, for Democrats and Republicans alike.
Presidential candidates, like nominal frontrunner Mitt Romney, aggressively advertise their patriotism, their embrace of American exceptionalism, and their love for this titular land of the free. They characterize Obama as anti-American: Santorum has accused him of siding with our "enemies." Romney asserts he knowingly promotes policies harmful to the country and that he will "poison the spirit of America" (and then they have the nerve to call him divisive). But with the exception of Ron Paul, all the Republican candidates, as well as President Obama, share a decidedly un-American disregard for liberty. The question is, how many voters care?
http://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2012/01/if-voters-cared-about-liberty-ron-paul-would-be-the-frontrunner/250880/
His platform has some serious flaws, but Paul is the only candidate standing up for individual liberties.
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You don't have to overlook or make excuses for Paul's weaknesses on civil rights or his apparent courting of virulent right-wing extremists to appreciate and applaud his support for liberty, where it arguably matters most. After all, Paul poses no threat to racial and religious tolerance, civil rights, or entitlements; he has virtually no chance of becoming president and his own alleged intolerance is, to say the least, unpopular. (It demonstrates the declining respectability of overt bigotry.) But he has an opportunity to organize and perhaps empower voters who oppose the Bush/Obama security state. If only that were a priority, for Democrats and Republicans alike.
Presidential candidates, like nominal frontrunner Mitt Romney, aggressively advertise their patriotism, their embrace of American exceptionalism, and their love for this titular land of the free. They characterize Obama as anti-American: Santorum has accused him of siding with our "enemies." Romney asserts he knowingly promotes policies harmful to the country and that he will "poison the spirit of America" (and then they have the nerve to call him divisive). But with the exception of Ron Paul, all the Republican candidates, as well as President Obama, share a decidedly un-American disregard for liberty. The question is, how many voters care?
http://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2012/01/if-voters-cared-about-liberty-ron-paul-would-be-the-frontrunner/250880/
Got it: President Obama. unlike Paul, has "adecidedly un-American disregard for liberty"
I guess the author believes that freedom to treat blacks like second-class citizens and for people to die without health care is "decidedly" American?
Paul On Newsletters: Not Only Did I Not Write Them, MLK Was One Of My Heroes
http://www.democraticunderground.com/1002135956
Ron Paul's hypocritical vision of health care: charity or death, "that's what freedom is all about"
http://www.democraticunderground.com/100288476
Republicans Versus Reproductive Rights
http://www.democraticunderground.com/1002141047
In Paul's own words:
Its not because Ive changed my message, he told FOX Newss Chris Wallace, in one of several interviews on the Sunday political talk show circuit. This is what Ive worked my whole career to warn people about, he said, dismissing criticism that hes a candidate of the lunatic fringe.
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And the Texas congressman is sticking to his Libertarian guns. He doubled down on statements from one of his books, downplaying the need for sexual harassment laws in the workplace. Because people are insulted by behavior, I dont think we should make a federal case out of that, Paul said on FOX News Sunday, saying that unless there is a threat or act of violence, a sexually harassed person could choose or not choose to work at the offending location.
http://2012.talkingpointsmemo.com/2012/01/the-die-has-been-cast-ron-paul-makes-closing-argument-to-iowa.php?ref=fpa
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And the Texas congressman is sticking to his Libertarian guns. He doubled down on statements from one of his books, downplaying the need for sexual harassment laws in the workplace. Because people are insulted by behavior, I dont think we should make a federal case out of that, Paul said on FOX News Sunday, saying that unless there is a threat or act of violence, a sexually harassed person could choose or not choose to work at the offending location.
http://2012.talkingpointsmemo.com/2012/01/the-die-has-been-cast-ron-paul-makes-closing-argument-to-iowa.php?ref=fpa
In Book, Ron Paul Opposed Workplace Harassment Protections
Ron Paul may be be polling well in Iowa, but hes had a tough few weeks denying responsibility for racist and homophobic material once published under his name. Now, we can add womens rights to the list. And this time, it will be hard for Paul to place the blame on another author.
As highlighted by CNN on Friday, in his 1987 book, Freedom Under Siege: The U.S. Constitution After 200-Plus Years, republished in 2007, Ron Paul made some eyebrow-raising statements about sexual harassment and womens rights in the workplace:
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Other passages in the book include jabs about LGBT people and AIDS. Like the notorious newsletters which include unsavory passages about the AIDS epidemic, Paul writes that the Founding Fathers probably wouldnt favor AIDS research and that insurance companies should have the right to refuse care to patients with HIV/AIDS:
And of course, Paul also takes issue with minority rights, wondering, if theres a black and hispanic caucus in Congress, why not a white one too?
http://2012.talkingpointsmemo.com/2011/12/in-book-ron-paul-opposed-workplace-harassment-protections.php
Ron Paul may be be polling well in Iowa, but hes had a tough few weeks denying responsibility for racist and homophobic material once published under his name. Now, we can add womens rights to the list. And this time, it will be hard for Paul to place the blame on another author.
As highlighted by CNN on Friday, in his 1987 book, Freedom Under Siege: The U.S. Constitution After 200-Plus Years, republished in 2007, Ron Paul made some eyebrow-raising statements about sexual harassment and womens rights in the workplace:
Employee rights are said to be valid when employers pressure employees into sexual activity. Why dont they quit once the so-called harassment starts? Obviously the morals of the harasser cannot be defended, but how can the harassee escape some responsibility for the problem? Seeking protection under civil rights legislation is hardly acceptable.
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The concept of equal pay for equal work is not only an impossible task, it can only be accomplished with the total rejection of the idea of the voluntary contract. By what right does the government assume power to tell an airline it must hire unattractive women if it does not want to?
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Other passages in the book include jabs about LGBT people and AIDS. Like the notorious newsletters which include unsavory passages about the AIDS epidemic, Paul writes that the Founding Fathers probably wouldnt favor AIDS research and that insurance companies should have the right to refuse care to patients with HIV/AIDS:
Victims of the disease AIDS argue
for crash research programs (to be paid for by people who dont have AIDS), demanding a cure
The individual suffering from AIDS certainly is a victim frequently a victim of his own lifestyle but this same individual victimizes innocent citizens by forcing them to pay for his care. Crash research programs are hardly something, I believe, the Founding Fathers intended when they talked about equal rights.
And of course, Paul also takes issue with minority rights, wondering, if theres a black and hispanic caucus in Congress, why not a white one too?
White people who organize and expect the same attention as other groups are quickly and viciously condemned as dangerous bigots. Hispanic, black, and Jewish caucuses can exist in the U.S. Congress, but not a white caucus, demonstrating the absurdity of this approach for achieving rights for everyone.
http://2012.talkingpointsmemo.com/2011/12/in-book-ron-paul-opposed-workplace-harassment-protections.php
Crackpots Do Not Make Good Messengers
http://www.democraticunderground.com/1002112129
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Greenwald links to pieces arguing the validity of citing Ron Paul's views, and more [View all]
ProSense
Jan 2012
OP
True, for a group who believes itself to be "individuals" they sure act like cultists.
FarLeftFist
Jan 2012
#22
Maybe you could address the Atlantic article's concerns about the growing "Defense" Security State
villager
Jan 2012
#3
You insist on attacking Paul, in order to attack Greenwald, while avoiding *Obama*
villager
Jan 2012
#17
Well, you criticize Greenwald no matter what. Your current link obsession is just the latest.
villager
Jan 2012
#24
You criticize Greenwald because he raises uneasy questions about Obama policy.
villager
Jan 2012
#34
I just posted an excerpt from the article in the OP. You're the one that's not discussing it.
villager
Jan 2012
#41
yet when obama praised reagan, you argued vehemently that he didn't praise reagan..
frylock
Jan 2012
#4
For allegedly not promoting Paul, Greenwald sure does a lot of promoting Paul.
AtomicKitten
Jan 2012
#5
I once linked to a DU post that linked to a website that linked to Free Republic which linked to...
Cali_Democrat
Jan 2012
#7
She Seems like she has decided to redifine civil liberties as those defined by Libertarian Party
pschoeb
Jan 2012
#29
Greenwald essentially claims to not be a Ron Paul supporter in this article:
Cali_Democrat
Jan 2012
#46
That isn't Greenwald's piece in the OP. It was written by Wendy Kaminer.
Luminous Animal
Jan 2012
#42
I said some of his views, not all of them, ie; the corruptive, counterproductive, racist
Uncle Joe
Jan 2012
#57
Too bad the previous bill co-sponsored by Kucinich and Paul didn't pass...
Luminous Animal
Jan 2012
#65