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In reply to the discussion: Greenwald links to pieces arguing the validity of citing Ron Paul's views, and more [View all]ProSense
(116,464 posts)8. Interesting,
but what's your opinion on this:
If Voters Cared About Liberty, Ron Paul Would Be the Frontrunner
His platform has some serious flaws, but Paul is the only candidate standing up for individual liberties.
<...>
You don't have to overlook or make excuses for Paul's weaknesses on civil rights or his apparent courting of virulent right-wing extremists to appreciate and applaud his support for liberty, where it arguably matters most. After all, Paul poses no threat to racial and religious tolerance, civil rights, or entitlements; he has virtually no chance of becoming president and his own alleged intolerance is, to say the least, unpopular. (It demonstrates the declining respectability of overt bigotry.) But he has an opportunity to organize and perhaps empower voters who oppose the Bush/Obama security state. If only that were a priority, for Democrats and Republicans alike.
Presidential candidates, like nominal frontrunner Mitt Romney, aggressively advertise their patriotism, their embrace of American exceptionalism, and their love for this titular land of the free. They characterize Obama as anti-American: Santorum has accused him of siding with our "enemies." Romney asserts he knowingly promotes policies harmful to the country and that he will "poison the spirit of America" (and then they have the nerve to call him divisive). But with the exception of Ron Paul, all the Republican candidates, as well as President Obama, share a decidedly un-American disregard for liberty. The question is, how many voters care?
http://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2012/01/if-voters-cared-about-liberty-ron-paul-would-be-the-frontrunner/250880/
His platform has some serious flaws, but Paul is the only candidate standing up for individual liberties.
<...>
You don't have to overlook or make excuses for Paul's weaknesses on civil rights or his apparent courting of virulent right-wing extremists to appreciate and applaud his support for liberty, where it arguably matters most. After all, Paul poses no threat to racial and religious tolerance, civil rights, or entitlements; he has virtually no chance of becoming president and his own alleged intolerance is, to say the least, unpopular. (It demonstrates the declining respectability of overt bigotry.) But he has an opportunity to organize and perhaps empower voters who oppose the Bush/Obama security state. If only that were a priority, for Democrats and Republicans alike.
Presidential candidates, like nominal frontrunner Mitt Romney, aggressively advertise their patriotism, their embrace of American exceptionalism, and their love for this titular land of the free. They characterize Obama as anti-American: Santorum has accused him of siding with our "enemies." Romney asserts he knowingly promotes policies harmful to the country and that he will "poison the spirit of America" (and then they have the nerve to call him divisive). But with the exception of Ron Paul, all the Republican candidates, as well as President Obama, share a decidedly un-American disregard for liberty. The question is, how many voters care?
http://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2012/01/if-voters-cared-about-liberty-ron-paul-would-be-the-frontrunner/250880/
Got it: President Obama. unlike Paul, has "adecidedly un-American disregard for liberty"
I guess the author believes that freedom to treat blacks like second-class citizens and for people to die without health care is "decidedly" American?
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Greenwald links to pieces arguing the validity of citing Ron Paul's views, and more [View all]
ProSense
Jan 2012
OP
True, for a group who believes itself to be "individuals" they sure act like cultists.
FarLeftFist
Jan 2012
#22
Maybe you could address the Atlantic article's concerns about the growing "Defense" Security State
villager
Jan 2012
#3
You insist on attacking Paul, in order to attack Greenwald, while avoiding *Obama*
villager
Jan 2012
#17
Well, you criticize Greenwald no matter what. Your current link obsession is just the latest.
villager
Jan 2012
#24
You criticize Greenwald because he raises uneasy questions about Obama policy.
villager
Jan 2012
#34
I just posted an excerpt from the article in the OP. You're the one that's not discussing it.
villager
Jan 2012
#41
yet when obama praised reagan, you argued vehemently that he didn't praise reagan..
frylock
Jan 2012
#4
For allegedly not promoting Paul, Greenwald sure does a lot of promoting Paul.
AtomicKitten
Jan 2012
#5
I once linked to a DU post that linked to a website that linked to Free Republic which linked to...
Cali_Democrat
Jan 2012
#7
She Seems like she has decided to redifine civil liberties as those defined by Libertarian Party
pschoeb
Jan 2012
#29
Greenwald essentially claims to not be a Ron Paul supporter in this article:
Cali_Democrat
Jan 2012
#46
That isn't Greenwald's piece in the OP. It was written by Wendy Kaminer.
Luminous Animal
Jan 2012
#42
I said some of his views, not all of them, ie; the corruptive, counterproductive, racist
Uncle Joe
Jan 2012
#57
Too bad the previous bill co-sponsored by Kucinich and Paul didn't pass...
Luminous Animal
Jan 2012
#65