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Butterflylady

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56. I think you're right in your last paragraph.

Fri Oct 23, 2020, 12:59 PM

Oct 2020

The amount of dislike for Hillary was under estimated. The thing of it is that I don't understand is why? I don't think I'm ever going to understand that, although I've developed a hatred for dump, but that's not hard to understand.

Several years ago in a conversation with an in-law the topic of Hillary came up and the dislike thing was brought up but I didn't question it any further because of family ties. The only thing I can come up with is that the right holds a monopoly on hate.

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Nate Silver seems to be saying the writing is on the wall at this point [View all] Dr. Jack Oct 2020 OP

A really different tone than what Silver took four years ago. Drunken Irishman Oct 2020 #1

We can "thank" Comey for what happened in 2016 still_one Oct 2020 #2

And it was hard to fully judge the effects until... Buckeye_Democrat Oct 2020 #8

Even before Comey, she was struggling. Drunken Irishman Oct 2020 #13

Hillary also didn't have 50 million people already vote Marius25 Oct 2020 #30

She had already had to regain ground from Comey's first attack in July. LisaM Oct 2020 #55

I think you're right in your last paragraph. Butterflylady Oct 2020 #56

Even another DOJ or FBI trick wouldn't work now. Thanks to Trump and Barr, they are untrusted. lagomorph777 Oct 2020 #16

don't forget house and senate hearings.. media complicity... actual vote tampering... getagrip_already Oct 2020 #39

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Hillary was a flawed candidate to begin with and why any so called "lead" was problematic beachbumbob Oct 2020 #3

yeah she didn't have a penis dsc Oct 2020 #5

+ JI7 Oct 2020 #11

Ding ding ding jcgoldie Oct 2020 #23

Right, as if the orange turd wasn't. brush Oct 2020 #33

And all the Russian bot shit spread on the internet about her: from game boards to cooking chat room AnotherMother4Peace Oct 2020 #28

That sums it up nicely DFW Oct 2020 #50

The public didn't like her much and she ran a poor campaign Amishman Oct 2020 #58

It is not that she was flawed. Boxerfan Oct 2020 #6

This Cosmocat Oct 2020 #17

No it wasn't Rush (at least not just Rush) dsc Oct 2020 #25

yup - just look back at the daily morning scum diatribes... getagrip_already Oct 2020 #40

It was her role in attempting to reform healthcare in the mid-90s. Dave Starsky Oct 2020 #43

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Every candidate is flawed. TwilightZone Oct 2020 #9

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Biden is flawed "even within the Democratic Party" TwilightZone Oct 2020 #26

I totally disagree. StevieM Oct 2020 #37

I think that is the key takeaway from 2016 but people don't realize it yet Dr. Jack Oct 2020 #21

This! Dream Girl Oct 2020 #44

Dead on. PTWB Oct 2020 #46

Mitch would never have allowed her to be moonscape Oct 2020 #66

Sanders came in first or 2nd place in most states JonLP24 Oct 2020 #70

I like Sanders, don't get me wrong Dr. Jack Oct 2020 #72

No. She wasn't. StevieM Oct 2020 #38

She also didn't campaign in states that she thought she had won qanda Oct 2020 #48

Two differences from 2016 Windy City Charlie Oct 2020 #15

Sure. Because her lead was not this large nor durable. GulfCoast66 Oct 2020 #34

Trump is an empty suit and everyone can see that beyond his base that will settle for that as he Doodley Oct 2020 #4

The Comey letter came out almost 4 years ago now NewJeffCT Oct 2020 #10

The Comey Letter came out 11 days before the election. We're 11 days out now. Drunken Irishman Oct 2020 #18

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Comey also didn't make things up. Drunken Irishman Oct 2020 #24

What He Didn't Do Me. Oct 2020 #59

A lie of omission, added to a lie of exaggeration. lagomorph777 Oct 2020 #64

Exactly Me. Oct 2020 #67

It was still very close, but she was probably headed... Buckeye_Democrat Oct 2020 #20

Here's a post I made on this subject four years ago. Drunken Irishman Oct 2020 #27

Thanks! Buckeye_Democrat Oct 2020 #29

I didn't either. Drunken Irishman Oct 2020 #31

The loss in Florida was foreboding, but I still had... Buckeye_Democrat Oct 2020 #32

I just did a quick DU search to see if I could find an OP on a long-forgotten double-whammy Celerity Oct 2020 #53

Thank you for pulling this material together. Mike 03 Oct 2020 #12

May be...but remember he was wrong on the 5 key states in 2016... cbdo2007 Oct 2020 #19

Just remember he is not a pollster. But an aggravator. GulfCoast66 Oct 2020 #35

Yeah, I saw that video they posted recently about the difference between 2016 and 2020... cbdo2007 Oct 2020 #36

Trafalgar seems to be an outlier at least this year ArizonaLib Oct 2020 #54

Yes, so it is difficult to determine this year. They were the outlier on many states in 2016 also. cbdo2007 Oct 2020 #60

I agree ArizonaLib Oct 2020 #61

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Correct, look at this article from 3 days prior to the Comey letter Awsi Dooger Oct 2020 #65

Brilliantly said. StevieM Oct 2020 #68

It ain't over til it's over and litigation ends bucolic_frolic Oct 2020 #42

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He is not a pollster. He does none. GulfCoast66 Oct 2020 #63

Which means that Trump had a real shot. Happy Hoosier Oct 2020 #71

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and accepting the count of the vote (n/t) CoryTrevor Oct 2020 #52

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