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In reply to the discussion: BREAKING: PA Supreme Court rules election officials are PROHIBITED from rejecting mail-in ballots... [View all]Roland99
(53,345 posts)32. There IS a verification process. The order says that the signature cannot be the reason for a reject
In the first guidance document issued on September 11, 2020 to all county boards,
Secretary Boockvar set forth the procedure the boards were to follow upon receipt of an
absentee or mail-in ballot. This guidance directed the county boards to examine the
declaration contained on the ballot return envelope containing the absentee or mail-in
ballot. It further directed the county board to compare the information on the outer
envelope, i.e., the voters name and address, with the information contained in the
Registered Absentee and Mail-In Voters File, the absentee voters list and/or the Military
Veterans and Emergency Civilians Absentee Voters File. Pennsylvania Department of
State, Guidance Concerning Examination of Absentee and Mail-In Ballot Return
https://www.dos.pa.gov/VotingElections/OtherServicesEvents/Documents/Examination
%20of%20Absentee%20and%20Mail-In%20Ballot%20Return%20Envelopes.pdf. The
Secretary advised that, if the declaration is signed and the county board is satisfied that
the declaration is sufficient, then the absentee or mail-in ballot should be approved for
canvassing unless it is challenged in accordance with the Election Code. The Secretary
specifically cautioned the county boards of elections in this regard that [t]he Pennsylvania
Election Code does not authorize the county board of elections to set aside returned
absentee or mail-in ballots based solely on signature analysis by the county board of
elections.
...
Judge Ranjan discerned nothing in the text of these provisions which requires
county boards of elections to verify the signatures on mail-in and absentee ballots that
is, to examine the signatures to determine whether or not they were authentic, Trump at
*53, and thus rejected Intervenors argument that Section 3146.8(g)(3) requires county
boards of elections to engage in signature comparison and verification. In Judge Ranjans
view, the county board of elections is required under this statutory provision to verify only
the proof of the voters identification by examining the voters drivers license number, the
last four digits of his or her social security number, or other specifically approved form of
[J-113-2020] - 10 identification which is required by Section 2602(z.5) of the Election Code.10
Indeed, Judge Ranjan noted that nowhere in Section 3146.8(g)(3) does the term signature
appear. Trump, at *55.
Secretary Boockvar set forth the procedure the boards were to follow upon receipt of an
absentee or mail-in ballot. This guidance directed the county boards to examine the
declaration contained on the ballot return envelope containing the absentee or mail-in
ballot. It further directed the county board to compare the information on the outer
envelope, i.e., the voters name and address, with the information contained in the
Registered Absentee and Mail-In Voters File, the absentee voters list and/or the Military
Veterans and Emergency Civilians Absentee Voters File. Pennsylvania Department of
State, Guidance Concerning Examination of Absentee and Mail-In Ballot Return
https://www.dos.pa.gov/VotingElections/OtherServicesEvents/Documents/Examination
%20of%20Absentee%20and%20Mail-In%20Ballot%20Return%20Envelopes.pdf. The
Secretary advised that, if the declaration is signed and the county board is satisfied that
the declaration is sufficient, then the absentee or mail-in ballot should be approved for
canvassing unless it is challenged in accordance with the Election Code. The Secretary
specifically cautioned the county boards of elections in this regard that [t]he Pennsylvania
Election Code does not authorize the county board of elections to set aside returned
absentee or mail-in ballots based solely on signature analysis by the county board of
elections.
...
Judge Ranjan discerned nothing in the text of these provisions which requires
county boards of elections to verify the signatures on mail-in and absentee ballots that
is, to examine the signatures to determine whether or not they were authentic, Trump at
*53, and thus rejected Intervenors argument that Section 3146.8(g)(3) requires county
boards of elections to engage in signature comparison and verification. In Judge Ranjans
view, the county board of elections is required under this statutory provision to verify only
the proof of the voters identification by examining the voters drivers license number, the
last four digits of his or her social security number, or other specifically approved form of
[J-113-2020] - 10 identification which is required by Section 2602(z.5) of the Election Code.10
Indeed, Judge Ranjan noted that nowhere in Section 3146.8(g)(3) does the term signature
appear. Trump, at *55.
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BREAKING: PA Supreme Court rules election officials are PROHIBITED from rejecting mail-in ballots... [View all]
Roland99
Oct 2020
OP
Good. This rejection solely based on unprofessional comparisons of signatures is ridiculous.
SWBTATTReg
Oct 2020
#1
Yep.... and I bet someone with an afro-centric name gets more scrutiny than John Smith
groundloop
Oct 2020
#11
This is Yuge. Not only a great decision but one is a critical state like PA.
Statistical
Oct 2020
#6
They would be taking the risk that the REAL voters would realize they hadn't received a ballot
pnwmom
Oct 2020
#33
Voter envelopes are uniquely tracked. Voters are notified when mailed, when returned.
bucolic_frolic
Oct 2020
#41
Could Trump's lawyers use that to take to the SCOTUS after he loses Pennsylvania?
LiberalLovinLug
Oct 2020
#9
There is so much back story surrounding the PA Republicans efforts to disenfranchise PA voters..
asiliveandbreathe
Oct 2020
#16
What do you mean...military ballots are ok to be counted after election day..
asiliveandbreathe
Oct 2020
#47
The process you describe sounds reasonable. I tried to read the legal stuff in the OP's...
LAS14
Oct 2020
#26
There IS a verification process. The order says that the signature cannot be the reason for a reject
Roland99
Oct 2020
#32
Ruling says officials aren't REQUIRED to reject a ballot SOLELY on the basis of signature mismatch.
klook
Oct 2020
#43
yay. id love to file up with a lawsuit on denying people their basic right to vote .
AllaN01Bear
Oct 2020
#23
Court rulings are SOOO last century. They are like subpeonas, mere suggestions.
not_the_one
Oct 2020
#56