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In reply to the discussion: In the 1970's I don't remember early voting, and it seemed like every school had voting machines [View all]frazzled
(18,402 posts)31. I first voted on those lever machines too
But they were hardly the nostalgic dream machines we like to reminisce about. They could miscount, and were open to manipulation by election officials.
Lever machines are an amazing feat of industrial revolution technology, but unfortunately their mechanical nature is a huge flaw. Lever machines tally their votes on cascaded odometer wheels behind their back panels. A recent study found that 250 out of 800 lever machines had defective odometer counting mechanisms that would stick instead of turning over. Even when the devices are working properly, at the end of the day poll workers can misread the odometers. In the 2000 election in Boston, almost 20,000 votes were initially ignored because elections officials were confused about which odometer reading to include and tally. Although local voting law usually calls for more than one person to be present when the odometers are visible on the back of a voting machines, sloppy processes have been alleged to allow odometers to be misread or changed by unscrupulous officials.
https://static.scientificamerican.com/sciam/assets/media/pdf/selker.pdf
Lever voting machines offer excellent voter privacy, and the feel of a lever voting machine is immensely reassuring to voters! Unfortunately, they are immense machines, expensive to move and store, difficult to test, complex to maintain, and far from secure against vote fraud. Furthermore, a lever voting machine maintains no audit trail. With paper ballots, a it is possible to recount the votes if there is an allegation of fraud. With lever voting machines, there is nothing to recount!
In effect, lever voting machines were the "quick technological fix" for the problems of a century ago; they eliminated the problems people understood while they introduced new problems. Because they are expensive to test, complete tests are extremely rare. The mechanism is secure against tampering by the public, but a technician can easily fix a machine so that one voting position will never register more than some set number of votes, and this may not be detected for years.
In effect, with lever voting machines, you put your trust in the technicians who maintain the machines, and if you want to rig an election, all you need to do is buy the services of enough of these technicians. This is quite feasible for a metropolitan political machine.
https://homepage.divms.uiowa.edu/~jones/voting/congress.html
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In the 1970's I don't remember early voting, and it seemed like every school had voting machines [View all]
Quixote1818
Oct 2020
OP
By age 12 I understood you could go to sleep knowing exit polls would accurately predict winner
lostnfound
Oct 2020
#48
NJ now moved polling places out of schools to prevent people from just walking into them.
TheBlackAdder
Oct 2020
#37
This is the truth. I'm 61. My entire adult life has been spent watching
Progressive Jones
Oct 2020
#27
I've never heard the wealthy complain about this. And there are reasons
Guy Whitey Corngood
Oct 2020
#40
They were required to be retired by the Help America Vote Act of 2002 -- Congress' fault
Klaralven
Oct 2020
#23
I grew up in Oregon. In school on election days they would tell us to be very quiet.
Olafjoy
Oct 2020
#32
In the late 70's/early 80s, I worked for a moving and storage company in Chicago that
Progressive Jones
Oct 2020
#33