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ProSense

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19. Wait

Mon Jan 9, 2012, 04:39 PM

Jan 2012

You insist on attacking Paul, in order to attack Greenwald, while avoiding *Obama*

...and his security state policies and diktats.

Cutting defense budgets -- as far as they went - is a good first step. Will that mean this government will take on the "black box" budgets of the national security state? I doubt it, but it'd be nice to see.

Additionally, if Obama is such a change-bringer, why do 4th Amendment protections continue to erode under his Constitutionallly-scholared watch?

...criticizing and rejecting Paul as a lunatic is attacking Greenwald? I'm criticizing Greenwald directly for continually promoting Paul.

What's your opinion on Paul's current Florida newsletter stating that he doesn't plan on cutting national defense to balance the budget?

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Greenwald links to pieces arguing the validity of citing Ron Paul's views, and more [View all] ProSense Jan 2012 OP

the vendetta continues Enrique Jan 2012 #1

That was ProSense Jan 2012 #2

i liked it Enrique Jan 2012 #13

Interesting ProSense Jan 2012 #16

Ah, Libertarianism... FarLeftFist Jan 2012 #18

And just think ProSense Jan 2012 #20

True, for a group who believes itself to be "individuals" they sure act like cultists. FarLeftFist Jan 2012 #22

ah namecalling Enrique Jan 2012 #23

Feel free to apologize for misrepresenting my post at any time. FarLeftFist Jan 2012 #25

You say, "Correct those who stray?" JackRiddler Jan 2012 #33

Maybe you could address the Atlantic article's concerns about the growing "Defense" Security State villager Jan 2012 #3

Here ProSense Jan 2012 #6

again -- a blue link in lieu of actual discussion about *Obama's* policies villager Jan 2012 #12

Well ProSense Jan 2012 #15

You insist on attacking Paul, in order to attack Greenwald, while avoiding *Obama* villager Jan 2012 #17

Wait ProSense Jan 2012 #19

Well, you criticize Greenwald no matter what. Your current link obsession is just the latest. villager Jan 2012 #24

Am ProSense Jan 2012 #26

You criticize Greenwald because he raises uneasy questions about Obama policy. villager Jan 2012 #34

Well, ProSense Jan 2012 #40

I just posted an excerpt from the article in the OP. You're the one that's not discussing it. villager Jan 2012 #41

Hmmm? ProSense Jan 2012 #44

Um, so you refuse to discuss the other assaults against the 4th amendment villager Jan 2012 #45

Instead ProSense Jan 2012 #47

"The blatant attempt at obfuscation!?" Like your OP, you mean? villager Jan 2012 #48

Maybe ProSense Jan 2012 #50

When you address post #34 - directly - we'll talk. villager Jan 2012 #53

Well, ProSense Jan 2012 #59

Cited it, yes. Addressed it, no. villager Jan 2012 #68

" Seriously, do you think red herrings and strawmen arguments work? " girl gone mad Jan 2012 #51

Careful there. Good citizens don't have opinions about the NDAA. JackRiddler Jan 2012 #38

yet when obama praised reagan, you argued vehemently that he didn't praise reagan.. frylock Jan 2012 #4

Are ProSense Jan 2012 #9

does it state that paul should be the frontrunner? frylock Jan 2012 #35

When Obama extended (routinely) the perpetual war budget... JackRiddler Jan 2012 #39

Obama extended it to 4% of GDP. OnyxCollie Jan 2012 #70

For allegedly not promoting Paul, Greenwald sure does a lot of promoting Paul. AtomicKitten Jan 2012 #5

According ProSense Jan 2012 #14

It will make little difference unless Paul runs third party. AtomicKitten Jan 2012 #21

I once linked to a DU post that linked to a website that linked to Free Republic which linked to... Cali_Democrat Jan 2012 #7

Interesting, ProSense Jan 2012 #8

I don't agree with Wendy Kaminer's analysis. n/t Cali_Democrat Jan 2012 #10

I ProSense Jan 2012 #11

Keep it up Pro--- trumad Jan 2012 #27

are you now, or have you ever been a supporter of ron paul? frylock Jan 2012 #69

She Seems like she has decided to redifine civil liberties as those defined by Libertarian Party pschoeb Jan 2012 #29

Exactly, ProSense Jan 2012 #32

Greenwald essentially claims to not be a Ron Paul supporter in this article: Cali_Democrat Jan 2012 #46

You seem to be around 24/7 here. Curious. ClassWarrior Jan 2012 #28

That's ProSense Jan 2012 #30

Post removed Post removed Jan 2012 #31

Seems this Greenwald cat kctim Jan 2012 #36

Greenwald is a total idiot surfdog Jan 2012 #37

That isn't Greenwald's piece in the OP. It was written by Wendy Kaminer. Luminous Animal Jan 2012 #42

Let me give you some expert advice. MineralMan Jan 2012 #43

The questions you should be asking your self is, does some of Paul's views Uncle Joe Jan 2012 #49

Well put, Uncle Joe villager Jan 2012 #52

See, ProSense Jan 2012 #56

I said some of his views, not all of them, ie; the corruptive, counterproductive, racist Uncle Joe Jan 2012 #57

What do you think of Obama's vile and racist war on drugs? girl gone mad Jan 2012 #58

It ProSense Jan 2012 #62

You did not answer the question. girl gone mad Jan 2012 #63

Sure ProSense Jan 2012 #64

Too bad the previous bill co-sponsored by Kucinich and Paul didn't pass... Luminous Animal Jan 2012 #65

Apparently that appeals to Greenwald and certain other "Progressives" Son of Gob Jan 2012 #61

Apparently. n/t ProSense Jan 2012 #67

Our daily five minutes of hate expand... nadinbrzezinski Jan 2012 #54

Hmmm? ProSense Jan 2012 #55

Voters who care about liberty quaker bill Jan 2012 #60

where to start? arely staircase Jan 2012 #66