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karynnj

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13. I agree - zingers entrance the media, but unless there is a previously

Sat Sep 29, 2012, 12:54 PM

Sep 2012

known, but not yet baked in truth behind it, it is hard to see how it moves anyone.

Think of the fact that one of the best lines was Benson's that Quayle was no JFK. Great line and it fit the widely held view that Quayle was a lightweight, but it added nothing new. It didn't do much to the results.

However, think of ALL the primaries. Did Romney have any real zingers? Not really - more often someone got him. In addition, he likely though the bet comment was a zinger to Perry. He looked so proud of himself as he did it. Consider his smile/smirk when speaking of Bengazie. If I (shudder to think of it) had to advise Romney, it would be to avoid anything like that because he sucks at it.

To me, what might be the hardest thing for Romney to do is to show the proper respect for the President as he challenges his positions by offering alternatives. (Consider Kerry 2004 who did this very well being both very much the gentleman he is and attacking Bush.) Consider that Romney spent so many years of his life as the boss who others deferred to. That showed in the primaries where his opponents were peers. Not to mention, he is the unpopular guy attacking the popular guy and a popular guy noted for being able to stay cool and calm. His base wants red meat attacks - and many believe in the fantasy RW version of the President - but at the debate the real Obama is there.

I think that Romney needs to avoid anything like clever zingers unless they absolutely fit the question.

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A Quick way to disarm Mitt and his zingers [View all] BootinUp Sep 2012 OP

That is good! nt avebury Sep 2012 #1

Yahtzee! fugop Sep 2012 #2

if it weren't a cliche.... grasswire Sep 2012 #8

And memorizing 'zingers' won't help when that 3am phone call comes. nt pinboy3niner Sep 2012 #3

That's my #1 reason for supporting Obama Patiod Sep 2012 #12

Now that it is out on public Mz Pip Sep 2012 #4

I agree - zingers entrance the media, but unless there is a previously karynnj Sep 2012 #13

"Bet you $10,000" That wasn't a 'zinger'? louis-t Sep 2012 #15

You hit the nail on the head! flyguyjake Sep 2012 #31

"That's a good one, Willard! May I call you Willard?" Freddie Sep 2012 #5

That's Kind Of How The Big Dog Handled A Personal Attack By Dole DemocratSinceBirth Sep 2012 #6

Yes, I vaguely remember that BootinUp Sep 2012 #9

4 more days until this fun! lonestarnot Sep 2012 #7

I think he should say "Now, don't get ugly." pamela Sep 2012 #10

He should have shot glasses on his podium Schema Thing Sep 2012 #11

But the prez would still be able to use his zingers, right? nt valerief Sep 2012 #14

And then when he uses another, the President says, "There you go again." marble falls Sep 2012 #16

Sounds like Mitt is copying Palin. But Palin's "Say it ain't so, Joe" zinger impressed only her. SunSeeker Sep 2012 #17

I'd simply ask stupidicus Sep 2012 #18

he has zingers? arely staircase Sep 2012 #19

Obama should carry a zinger in his pocket and whip it out and take a bite aint_no_life_nowhere Sep 2012 #20

That would be hilarious! -Steph- Sep 2012 #22

Pretty good idea to diffuse them. If done early enough, it'll make further ones sound forced. nt BenzoDia Sep 2012 #21

I think that plays into Romney's hands oberliner Sep 2012 #23

Nah, too many liberals are too wimpy. If hit, you hit back twice as hard. Obama will counterpunch. RBInMaine Sep 2012 #25

In any case, it will be all about the spin oberliner Sep 2012 #37

I think Obama will do just fine, as well. And the internet has already prepped most folks pinto Sep 2012 #28

That could work oberliner Sep 2012 #29

Obama just smiles and says, world wide wally Sep 2012 #24

I thought of this as well. reflection Sep 2012 #26

I am living for this debate sevenseas Sep 2012 #27

Short of Romney tripping and taking a flying leap into the audience and suffering a concussion aint_no_life_nowhere Sep 2012 #30

The Zingers come natural for Mitt. fun n serious Sep 2012 #32

YES- and his poor sons- sevenseas Sep 2012 #33

Someone suggested the leak of the zinger story was calculated... pinboy3niner Sep 2012 #34

I think Obama should mention the so-called "zingers" in his opening. pa28 Sep 2012 #35

Best reply.... Red Mountain Sep 2012 #36