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Celerity

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18. I have been wavering on renouncing for the last 4 years, but decided to stay a citizen
Mon Oct 26, 2020, 10:08 PM
Oct 2020

to vote out Trump. After the (no matter what the result) I am 99% likely to renounce. I will double-taxed (I make that much income now, and the double taxation scheme has nothing to do with Trump, and it will not change under Biden or any other POTUS down the road, and I will be fucked if I help fund endless empiric wars and parts of the government that want to eradicate people like me ) and now (as I do NOT see the SCOTUS being expanded, too many Dems have said they are against it in the Senate) I fear if I did ever come back, it would be to a nation that no longer recognises my marriage, plus dog knows whatever additional civil rights rollbacks (I am the trifecta, a mixed race partially black cis gendered female married lesbian.)

I loved my couple of years in Los Angeles a few years ago, but the quality of life here (Sweden and before that, the UK, where I was raised) is overall just better for what we want out of life. The percentage of violent, radical, hateful, ignorant, racist, misogynistic, homophobic people is staggeringly higher in the US than over here. I inherited a wickedly bad temper from mummy (she is Bajan, my father Swedish) and my mouth or actions in a bad confrontation with a rando MAGAt type might end up with me and/or wifey shot or beat senseless. It just is not shaping up to be worth the hassle.

Maybe I will have a change of heart, but I seriously doubt it. Time will tell.



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At my age I doubt I have 10 years, so I'll ride it out. nt Binkie The Clown Oct 2020 #1
It can't come back. But I believe it will get better. LakeArenal Oct 2020 #2
Wow -- see my response below. Hope to join you!! LSparkle Oct 2020 #11
I wil never abandon my country Skittles Oct 2020 #3
nt bdamomma Oct 2020 #4
Agreed... Ohio Joe Oct 2020 #26
1. I have children here. 2. This country can destroy the entire world. Pobeka Oct 2020 #5
I have kids and see no reason to put them through this. SlogginThroughIt Oct 2020 #48
I'm 10 years older than you Freddie Oct 2020 #6
It's tough to find another country that will take you in at your age (or older)... Silent3 Oct 2020 #7
There May Be No "Socialized Benefits" Here sfstaxprep Oct 2020 #8
The problem is, if you're there, they'll be obligated to provide for you Silent3 Oct 2020 #13
If we are accepted for residency, we will have socialized medicine. LakeArenal Oct 2020 #15
My wife and I moved to beautiful lake Chapala Mexico elevator Oct 2020 #49
If the global right-wing cancer is not stopped soon, KY_EnviroGuy Oct 2020 #9
I'm 62 and with you ... LSparkle Oct 2020 #10
You may not have to move to change countries. roamer65 Oct 2020 #12
I'm in my 30s and I'm looking for a new country now. Marius25 Oct 2020 #14
I've asked my 4 adult kids to prepare themselves CozyMystery Oct 2020 #16
I think this will force Democrats to legislate better Buckeyeblue Oct 2020 #17
I have been wavering on renouncing for the last 4 years, but decided to stay a citizen Celerity Oct 2020 #18
How is that herd immunity thing going? nt JanMichael Oct 2020 #21
I would not know, I live in Sweden, where we never went for herd immunity, unlike some of the states Celerity Oct 2020 #22
You should know. JanMichael Oct 2020 #23
A herd immunity approach was never implemented, so it is a non starter. Celerity Oct 2020 #25
herd immunity bdamomma Oct 2020 #45
I agree nt Celerity Oct 2020 #46
No offence but Sweden would be the last place I considered as a permanent...home; their Demsrule86 Oct 2020 #32
there was no herd immunity experiment, stop posting disinfo, this is not the first time you have Celerity Oct 2020 #33
I do tend to watch those House Hunter International type shows like I'm making a shopping list TeamPooka Oct 2020 #19
I'm 55, and strongly considering it. AnnieBW Oct 2020 #20
Many places will, you just have to meet certain requirements. Celerity Oct 2020 #28
I have a dual citizenship, thank god. cwydro Oct 2020 #34
what other nation, if you do not mind me asking? Celerity Oct 2020 #35
My parents were both British. cwydro Oct 2020 #37
nice, although thanks to Brexit, a UK passport no longer opens up the whole of the EU Celerity Oct 2020 #38
I know, and that's a damn shame. cwydro Oct 2020 #39
'I just want to get to Wales.' Celerity Oct 2020 #41
My da was from London. cwydro Oct 2020 #44
I grew up right off Fulham Road, in South Kensington Celerity Oct 2020 #47
He grew up in the Lewis Trust Buildings cwydro Oct 2020 #50
wow, SO close Celerity Oct 2020 #54
Considering Croatia or Greece AnnieBW Nov 2020 #58
different poster, I was talking to someone else, not the OP Celerity Nov 2020 #59
Sorry. AnnieBW Nov 2020 #60
no problem! Celerity Nov 2020 #61
Do you have enough Money ? Where are you going to go with Covid making things even more difficult ? JI7 Oct 2020 #24
Don't be a quitter. Work to make your country better. panader0 Oct 2020 #27
This message was self-deleted by its author appalachiablue Oct 2020 #56
How nice for you. aidbo Oct 2020 #29
Which country do you think will want you? cagefreesoylentgreen Oct 2020 #30
Happy Travels...thanks for sharing. Demsrule86 Oct 2020 #31
Even when times are good Thyla Oct 2020 #36
So, long then. No need to hang around. brooklynite Oct 2020 #40
My husband and I are thinking of moving. marie999 Oct 2020 #42
At your age, you're not going anywhere without a million bucks in the bank. maxsolomon Oct 2020 #43
Many 3rd world countries are affordable even for those living on SS Kaleva Oct 2020 #51
I have a retired colleague maxsolomon Oct 2020 #52
I could live in Panama on the $1300 a month I get for SS and VA Kaleva Oct 2020 #53
What is that old saying? littlemissmartypants Oct 2020 #55
Fuck that! Not you, by any means. To each his own. GulfCoast66 Oct 2020 #57
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