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As predicted, & entirely predictable. K&R. And I'll guess what some of the fallout will be HiPointDem Sep 2012 #1
I figured this would happen. First B Calm Sep 2012 #2
I'd rather start with that second part myself n/t eridani Sep 2012 #3
Nothing good ever comes easy! B Calm Sep 2012 #5
Agree 100% n/t ChazII Sep 2012 #31
Ryancare coming early Amak8 Sep 2012 #4
Du rec. Nt xchrom Sep 2012 #6
we've been discussing this on a previous thread antigop Sep 2012 #7
I was mainly emphasizing the McCanne commentary n/t eridani Sep 2012 #9
and a lot of McCanne's points had already been brought up by DUers on that thread n/t antigop Sep 2012 #10
this is very badly titled and very misleading article graham4anything Sep 2012 #8
Well, the silver lining is that this might provide the impetus for a second round of reform. Selatius Sep 2012 #11
we can hope. That was sort of the idea Obama had to get it started graham4anything Sep 2012 #15
They'd be doing it regardless of ACA eridani Sep 2012 #13
It's from the Murdoch Journal Doctor_J Sep 2012 #16
I don't know about the other co., but Sears is in trouble financially, so that's probably what that Honeycombe8 Sep 2012 #12
It is exactly like a 401k--a switch from defined benefits to defined contribution eridani Sep 2012 #14
Large companies almost always find it cheaper to self-insure. Gormy Cuss Sep 2012 #25
kick Native Sep 2012 #17
Like every thing. The plan has pluses and minuses. bluestate10 Sep 2012 #18
$5k won't buy an ins policy for a year. Not a decent one. My state won't have exchanges... Honeycombe8 Sep 2012 #19
if the state opts out, the federal govt steps in and sets up the exchange. eom ellenfl Sep 2012 #34
I didn't realize that. I looked it up, and apparently that's true. Yay!!!! Honeycombe8 Sep 2012 #35
i'm looking for the exchanges to morph into single payor/medicare-for-all. ellenfl Sep 2012 #40
Where I work, three years ago when we were bought out, employees paid about $39 a week DainBramaged Sep 2012 #20
Why should jobs pay for people's health care in the way that it is currently given? glowing Sep 2012 #21
Divide and conquer. We need single payer. gulliver Sep 2012 #22
Yes we do. lonestarnot Sep 2012 #23
+1 leftstreet Sep 2012 #24
+1000 truebluegreen Sep 2012 #42
Yes. Healthcare should never be tied to employment. aquart Sep 2012 #46
One in ten businesses set to drop their health care coverage this year riderinthestorm Sep 2012 #26
You and I both. Zalatix Sep 2012 #45
it really is simple...medicare for all. madrchsod Sep 2012 #27
This isn't a bad thing. jeff47 Sep 2012 #28
Yeah so deliberately make things worse til it all collapses so you can rebuild? dkf Sep 2012 #30
Because it isn't making it worse. jeff47 Sep 2012 #33
"Because it isn't making it worse"? If you earn just $20K a year THIS RAISES YOUR living expenses by Zalatix Sep 2012 #44
If you earn $20k a year, you had absolutely no chance of buying health insurance before. jeff47 Sep 2012 #52
This was so obviously coming. Healthcare costs are out of control. dkf Sep 2012 #29
Agreed mick063 Sep 2012 #36
...and the existing regimen of cost-sharing/cost-avoidance has been a part of the problem bhikkhu Sep 2012 #38
Except employers are going to drop it faster than its going to change things. dkf Sep 2012 #48
Because of republicans we got ACA B Calm Sep 2012 #39
Yes, and we didn't even add a public option. Ridiculous. dkf Sep 2012 #50
Every time my company made a change it was for their benefit socialindependocrat Sep 2012 #32
This was happening before HCR. It is just continuing now. jwirr Sep 2012 #37
Two shit companies circling the drain n/t taught_me_patience Sep 2012 #41
I warned people about this, too. Zalatix Sep 2012 #43
Universal Health is on its way lovuian Sep 2012 #47
I see this as a good thing SmileyRose Sep 2012 #49
nothing new - they have been doing it for over 20 years with outsourcing 2Design Sep 2012 #51
I'm not even convinced an employer healthcare mutiny would be bad thing Sen. Walter Sobchak Sep 2012 #53
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