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20. Nixon was pulling all sorts of bizarre crap at once
Sat Sep 29, 2012, 02:44 PM
Sep 2012

There's been some nostalgia for Nixon around here lately, because compared to the current crop of Republicans he looks good. But we should never forget that he was doing his best to undermine democracy -- in concert with the more dubious elements of the CIA, the Mafia, and his merry gang of Cuban exiles.

I've been sorting through some of my old notes on what was going on in the Nixon White House with regard to drug policy. The story is complex, but the short version is that Nixon wanted to use the drug agencies as a means of domestic surveillance and covert operations, one that would be completely under the control of the White House and without even the degree of external oversight imposed on the CIA.

The chief motivators behind the plan were E. Howard Hunt and G. Gordon Liddy -- both of whom got snared in Watergate, which strongly suggests that the break-in was part of that pattern of covert operations and not specifically an election dirty trick.

The culmination of all of this was to have been the creation in 1973 of the Drug Enforcement Agency -- which was huge, largely unaccountable, and combined former CIA and military intelligence people with old-line drug enforcement agents. And if it hadn't been for Watergate, they might have gotten away with it.

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Not quite true: Nixon would have won in 1960 except for some Blue Meany Sep 2012 #1
Just plain ole wrong. H2O Man Sep 2012 #6
It is funny when Daley machine corruption is ignored or defended on DU. former9thward Sep 2012 #27
I think not. H2O Man Sep 2012 #29
You attacked the poster by insulting him/her by saying Chicago was a "city not a state". former9thward Sep 2012 #30
Gracious. H2O Man Sep 2012 #36
Good Responses! burrowowl Oct 2012 #52
You're assuming that Nixon didn't pull any dirty tricks to carry California Hippo_Tron Sep 2012 #33
I am not assuming anything. former9thward Sep 2012 #34
You are silly. H2O Man Sep 2012 #37
What BS former9thward Sep 2012 #39
Well, sport, H2O Man Sep 2012 #40
Your "facts" are like the vote math that Daley used. former9thward Sep 2012 #45
Really, really weak. H2O Man Sep 2012 #47
You don't know me and you don't know whom I have met. former9thward Oct 2012 #48
Yes, H2O Man Oct 2012 #49
Then please tell us. former9thward Oct 2012 #50
No, wait, let me guess. 2ndAmForComputers Sep 2012 #18
And death panels!! Don't forget the death panelzz!!!1 Robb Sep 2012 #44
bullshit. And there were many more corn husks voting in Southern Illinois. nt LaydeeBug Oct 2012 #57
I assume you have evidence to back up your claim Coyotl Nov 2012 #58
Even Eisenhower fearmongered about Dems being "soft on communism", NYC Liberal Sep 2012 #2
You forgot the Watergate break in in 1972. 1984 was pretty clean of dirty tricks. craigmatic Sep 2012 #3
Reagan made Stupid acceptable. GeorgeGist Sep 2012 #10
I don't believe Watergate affected the election starroute Sep 2012 #15
True the break in wasn't neccessary for Nixon to win but it was still a dirty trick. craigmatic Sep 2012 #17
Nixon was pulling all sorts of bizarre crap at once starroute Sep 2012 #20
I'd argue that they did get away with it just not the way they had hoped. craigmatic Sep 2012 #23
You're absolutely right about that starroute Sep 2012 #28
That's right: all 'won' by tricks; not fairly RobertEarl Sep 2012 #4
Carter lost by 9, not 2. and Gore won by 500k, not 1 million scheming daemons Sep 2012 #5
A 18 point swing to Reagan in less than 10 days... Pbs1914 Sep 2012 #9
But, when the votes were counted in Florida, Gore won there too AnotherDreamWeaver Sep 2012 #14
If You Believe Gallup. Other Pollsters Were Showing A Much Different Race DemocratSinceBirth Sep 2012 #19
Exactly. Reagan was ahead in the poll averages. Jennicut Sep 2012 #38
oh my you mean people LIE to pollsters ... nt littlewolf Oct 2012 #56
I guess that means Nixon didn't win in '72 and Reagan in '84? WI_DEM Sep 2012 #7
I was going with the premise Pbs1914 Sep 2012 #8
Hostages were in Iran in 1980, not in Lebanon MiniMe Sep 2012 #11
Alright Pbs1914 Sep 2012 #12
Tomatoes are actually a fruit, Merle Haggard is not dead and we have pubic hair for a reason jberryhill Sep 2012 #13
And it's ok to breastfeed your pitbull while smoking at Olive Garden. n/t hootinholler Sep 2012 #21
On the other hand theKed Sep 2012 #22
So depressing! Tumbulu Sep 2012 #16
Name the last Republican to win a presidency without the name "Bush" or "Nixon" on the ticket. HughBeaumont Sep 2012 #24
Hoover, 1928. Freddie Sep 2012 #26
He needs to dump Ryan for Cynthia Nixon. Nye Bevan Sep 2012 #35
Ha! Bucky Oct 2012 #55
Eiesenhower, lol Pbs1914 Sep 2012 #25
oh what bullshit. I hate people just making shit up to fit cali Sep 2012 #31
Am I the only DUer who believes that the only illegitimate election was 2000? Nye Bevan Sep 2012 #32
That's arguable. Chiyo-chichi Sep 2012 #41
All legitimate points and Dukakis should have come out swinging with them immediately. Nye Bevan Sep 2012 #42
That's exactly right. Chiyo-chichi Sep 2012 #43
There was questionable stuff going on in 2004. Voter suppression had started by then. Bucky Oct 2012 #54
The historian in me feels compelled to object to your depiction of 1968. Nixon coalition_unwilling Sep 2012 #46
True, very true burrowowl Oct 2012 #51
Not sure you got a serious case about 1988 or 2004 Bucky Oct 2012 #53
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