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Zalatix

(8,994 posts)
97. How do you explain the fact that we've replaced high paying manufacturing jobs with low paying crap?
Mon Jan 9, 2012, 05:23 PM
Jan 2012

Or just flat out rampant unemployment?

Seriously, nobody is buying this free trade crap anymore. Look around you. America is starting to see through this nonsense. Wake up!

Ain't globalization great! Ugh! Little Star Jan 2012 #1
This is what happens when the politicians embrace snake oil salesmen AZ Progressive Jan 2012 #66
Why are these the only good jobs? treestar Jan 2012 #2
Yes, they all became doctors. Union Scribe Jan 2012 #4
Treestar - why is poverty in the USA at the highest level since they started keeping records 50 year FreakinDJ Jan 2012 #5
Maybe people *like* to live in poverty? Ever think of that? There's a lot more here than meets the Romulox Jan 2012 #18
Why are all of those jobs impossible without factory jobs? treestar Jan 2012 #33
Again treestar, FACTS. What *actually* happened is key. Not what you imagine *might* happen. Romulox Jan 2012 #79
Because history has said so. What is your problem with people having good paying jobs, anyway? Zalatix Jan 2012 #95
in the good old days lazarus Jan 2012 #102
WE really need the smiles back. I can't tell who is kidding any more. Vincardog Jan 2012 #6
Dear, sweet lord. aquart Jan 2012 #9
Good jobs Ron Obvious Jan 2012 #11
That makes alot of sense.....So why don't they get protected? midnight Jan 2012 #14
By whom? Brickbat Jan 2012 #15
Touche! midnight Jan 2012 #23
Why manufacturing is not protected Ron Obvious Jan 2012 #21
Democratic Gov. Doyle of Wisconsin signed into law midnight Jan 2012 #25
Corp Tax Avoidence Schemes play a HUGE role in off shoring manufacturing FreakinDJ Jan 2012 #45
that's been their plan for years in the making Blue_Tires Jan 2012 #77
60% of all Global Trade is "Inter-Corporation" Transfers used for Tax Avoidence FreakinDJ Jan 2012 #78
Manufacturing what? treestar Jan 2012 #34
Who said it's superior? n/t Ron Obvious Jan 2012 #47
Find a post anywhere accounting for those things as jobs. treestar Jan 2012 #61
"Obviously not sold in China (there may be Christians there, but the are persecuted)" Occulus Jan 2012 #94
Reverse snobbery treestar Jan 2012 #37
Huh? Ron Obvious Jan 2012 #46
That's exactly what you said treestar Jan 2012 #62
Not superior Ron Obvious Jan 2012 #92
Blue-collar manufacturing workers are more likely to sustain repetitive-motion, muscle, and Occulus Jan 2012 #98
yes, manufacturing jobs create wealth newspeak Jan 2012 #68
FDR Ron Obvious Jan 2012 #99
Oh, hell. I'm drinking tonight, so I'll play. Brickbat Jan 2012 #12
Very well said.... midnight Jan 2012 #27
It is nutty to claim there is no middle class treestar Jan 2012 #36
Your teacher, doctor, lawyer, accountant and salespeople friends got those jobs without college Brickbat Jan 2012 #40
Oh wait a minute, now we're in the Upper Class? treestar Jan 2012 #65
Brickbat, there is no reaching Treestar. Look what he has said before: Zalatix Jan 2012 #96
Also, yes, it's certainly "nutty" to claim that there is no middle class. Brickbat Jan 2012 #41
How are there "no blue collar jobs left?" treestar Jan 2012 #64
FACTS, treestar. You MUST engage with them to discuss "current events". nt Romulox Jan 2012 #87
+ 1 billion 1gobluedem Jan 2012 #39
There's a lot of other factors that allowed for that economy, though... Hippo_Tron Jan 2012 #52
Reality matters, treestar. These jobs *could* be replaced with something better, BUT THEY HAVEN'T Romulox Jan 2012 #17
You obviously know nothing about the domino effect. Elwood P Dowd Jan 2012 #24
Hasn't happened though treestar Jan 2012 #35
That simply is Not True FreakinDJ Jan 2012 #42
They might want to buy the cheaper Chinese products then treestar Jan 2012 #63
Wrong again! Elwood P Dowd Jan 2012 #44
FACTS, treestar. What *actually* is happening, not your imagination: "This could be happening..." Romulox Jan 2012 #80
How do you explain the fact that we've replaced high paying manufacturing jobs with low paying crap? Zalatix Jan 2012 #97
So all the new manufacturing jobs should have a reverse-domino effect bhikkhu Jan 2012 #50
Short answer? girl gone mad Jan 2012 #26
I think you have a point. maggiesfarmer Jan 2012 #60
You don't need to get into deep debt to do them AZ Progressive Jan 2012 #67
If you want to know why manufacturing jobs are so important Blue_Tires Jan 2012 #85
"Rosie the Wall Mart Clerk" nt Romulox Jan 2012 #89
my uncle is a good example. w8liftinglady Jan 2012 #93
Shut up and get back to work. Here are your scripts: onehandle Jan 2012 #3
That's OLD news. THIS WEEK's news ProgressiveEconomist Jan 2012 #7
Yes, ProSense Jan 2012 #16
Yeah that tends to happen when your currency is worth shit. Bonobo Jan 2012 #30
No doubt ProSense Jan 2012 #32
Do we need more proof that Republicans hate America? AZ Progressive Jan 2012 #69
At 1980's wages. progressoid Jan 2012 #71
Every developed country has seen manufacturing decline. Several have it worse than the US. pampango Jan 2012 #8
And our gilded-age leve inequality, childhood poverty, worst social mobility in the developed world? Romulox Jan 2012 #20
Are caused by slashing the safety net, eliminating progressive taxes, weakening unions and pampango Jan 2012 #83
Nonsense. You have no proof for that whatever. It's just a convenient excuse. nt Romulox Jan 2012 #86
No proof of what? pampango Jan 2012 #101
I wonder if they all went to China or India? midnight Jan 2012 #28
This message was self-deleted by its author Bonobo Jan 2012 #29
Your graph stops before Obama's policies turned manufacturing around bhikkhu Jan 2012 #49
Great news! Is this the result of the Free Trade Agreements with South Korea, Columbia, and Panama? AnotherMcIntosh Jan 2012 #53
Its more the result of monetary policies, and good trade policies bhikkhu Jan 2012 #58
It's more likely the result of unreliable reporting and propaganda. It's inherently incredible. AnotherMcIntosh Jan 2012 #59
So, in spite of the data, you believe there are no new manufacturing jobs bhikkhu Jan 2012 #70
Increased exports does not mean that manufacturing jobs are being added in a signifigant way. AnotherMcIntosh Jan 2012 #72
300,000 jobs added in manufacturing is significant bhikkhu Jan 2012 #73
His trade policies? = "Free Trade" with South Korea, Columbia, and Panama. AnotherMcIntosh Jan 2012 #74
Again, the effects of trade vary with the monetary policy and trade agreement behind it bhikkhu Jan 2012 #75
You understand that our trade with "free trade" countries is much more equal than with pampango Jan 2012 #76
You understand what a "deficit" is, yes? It means more came in then went out, irrespective of "free Romulox Jan 2012 #82
And smaller deficits are better than bigger deficits. pampango Jan 2012 #84
They're still UNSUSTAINABLE, pampango. Do you have any background in economics? Romulox Jan 2012 #90
Um, pampango? Not much of a "discusser", are you? You avoided my questions like the plague! Romulox Jan 2012 #81
32% of 10% left by 2000 is still alot - the damage was done and continued and continues 2Design Jan 2012 #10
And CEO to worker pay is 475:1. Capitalism - the ultimate ponzi scheme. Initech Jan 2012 #13
Remember: we MUST re-elect the signor of the "free trade" with Korea deal. MUST! nt Romulox Jan 2012 #19
Just think of what might happen if we DON'T!!11! Brickbat Jan 2012 #22
Its really quite simple airplaneman Jan 2012 #31
but, but... Wallmart has jobs! G_j Jan 2012 #38
gwbush barbtries Jan 2012 #43
Agreed, but after Bush negotiated the Free Trade Agreements with South Korea, Columbia, and Panama, AnotherMcIntosh Jan 2012 #54
Under Obama, since 2/2010, we have had a net gain of 302k manufacturing jobs bhikkhu Jan 2012 #48
Who made up the chart? AnotherMcIntosh Jan 2012 #55
The data is originally from the Bureau of Labor Statistics bhikkhu Jan 2012 #57
just wait a little longer - all the benefits of NAFTA and GATT and all the other free trade deals Douglas Carpenter Jan 2012 #51
Sooner or later, the top politicians are going to run out of countries to free-trade with. AnotherMcIntosh Jan 2012 #56
So. Do DU's "free traders" *really* not know about unemployment, underemployment, inequality, Romulox Jan 2012 #88
The 1%'s THEFT of the Economy FreakinDJ Jan 2012 #91
Wow what a nutty discussion in this thread. Quantess Jan 2012 #100
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